> In article <3f7d2c66$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, Eric wrote: >> Can anyone recommend me a good equivalent "IDE" for Applesoft Basic >> programming on Apple IIe? You could try Bob SC's good ol' ES-CAPE (Extended S-C Applesoft Editor) from 1982. Comes with S-C Assembler source.... available freely here: http://home.tiscali.se/pausch/apple2/dsk.html http://stjarnhimlen.se/apple2/dsk.html S-C Assembler Disk images: (all of them in one file) SCASM2_4.DSK S-C Assembler II ver 4.0 (1980) #4-2181 SCA_6809.DSK S-C Assembler II ver 4 (1980) - 6809 ver #6809-04 SCMASM10.DSK S-C Macro Assembler 1.0 (1982) #M-5002 SCM_6809.DSK S-C Macro Assembler 6809 (1982) #6809-10 SCM_Z80.DSK S-C Macro Assembler Z-80 (1982) #Z-80-5 SCM_Z80B.DSK S-C Macro Assembler Z-80 (1982) #Z-80-17 SCM_68K.DSK S-C Macro Assembler 68000 (1982) #68000-13 SC_XREF.DSK S-C Cross Reference Utility with source (1983) #CRS-12 SCMASM11.DSK S-C Macro Assembler 1.1 (1983) #U-168 SCMASM20.DSK S-C Macro Assembler 2.0 (1984) #T-1047 SCSRC20.DSK S-C Macro Assembler Source Code 2.0 (1985) #SCD-1006 SCPRO20.DSK S-C Macro Assembler 2.0 for ProDOS 1.1.1 (1985) #P-1098 SCREENED.DSK Screen Editor for S-C Macro Asm (Mike Laumer 1983) #SE-1027 ES-CAPE.DSK Extended S-C Applesoft Editor (1982) #E-1298 ES-CAPE2.DSK Es-Cape 2.0 pre-release copy #7 AAL-8602.DSK Apple Assembly Line Source Disk, 1986-02 #18 AAL-8603.DSK Apple Assembly Line Source Disk, 1986-03 #20 AAL-8604.DSK Apple Assembly Line Source Disk, 1986-04 #18 AAL-8605.DSK Apple Assembly Line Source Disk, 1986-05 #2 AAL-8606.DSK Apple Assembly Line Source Disk, 1986-06 #25 AAL-8607.DSK Apple Assembly Line Source Disk, 1986-07 #6 AAL-8608.DSK Apple Assembly Line Source Disk, 1986-08 #29 AAL-8609.DSK Apple Assembly Line Source Disk, 1986-09 #26 -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Schlyter, Grev Turegatan 40, SE-114 38 Stockholm, SWEDEN e-mail: pausch at stockholm dot bostream dot se WWW: http://www.stjarnhimlen.se/ http://home.tiscali.se/pausch/ Michael J. Mahon (mjmahon@aol.com) wrote: : Eric asked: : >Is there an easier way than Apple-Q to quit to test run then typing && to : >get back? And to continue to code with auto line numbering, each time I : >return to the editor I have to place cursor to the last line and Apple-A : >again. : Not that I know of--though OA-9 is the quick way to get to the last : line, but I expect you know that. Actually, there is a quicker way to test run... {Esc}R {Return} 8-) Best of all, and I think this is probably ultimately why I preferred GPLE, the code you just wrote stays on the screen, if the code in question doesn't mung the screen... And I rarely used auto line numbering. Early on I used it, but the more I wrote, the less I used it. Well, I already admitted that my workflow was a little unusual. Probably affected by the fact that I rarely if ever wrote anything down. --Dave Althoff, ][. -- /-\ _ *** Respect rides. They do not respect you. *** /XXX\ /X\ /X\_ _ /X\__ _ _ _____ /XXXXX\ /XXX\ _/XXXX\_ /X\ /XXXXX\ /X\ /X\ /XXXXX _/XXXXXXX\__/XXXXX\/XXXXXXXX\_/XXX\_/XXXXXXX\__/XXX\_/XXX\_/\_/XXXXXX > I never used those, either...I thought embedding control characters was a > bit sloppy and/or lazy. All those MicroSPARC programs that had that line... > > nn D$ = "" : REM THERE IS A CONTROL-D IN THERE > > seemed like it was counter-productive...why not just use... > > nn D$ = CHR$(4) From memory, it was a style legacy from the Apple Integer BASIC days. It's a long time ago now, but did Integer BASIC have the CHR$() function? > : >Personally, I swore by GPLE and swore at Program Writer. GPLE was my choice for many years (from well before Program Writer was written). It was simply brilliant, especially if you took advantage of the macros. And I remember being less than impressed the first time I saw Program Writer. However, in the end GPLE was still a *LINE* editor. Eventually I took on some contract work for a largish number of Applesoft programs, and I bit the bullet and started using Program Writer. There were a couple of things that I missed, but the 80-20 rule applied - I was 80% better off for losing 20% of things I liked. But it wasn't so bad anyway, because it was entirely possible to run both GPLE *AND* Program Writer at the same time! Do the broad-brush, big-picture editing in Program Writer, and down-and-dirty Applesoft run-and-edit stuff using GPLE. The overhead meant it couldn't be done with every program, but that was true of either editor by itself. -- Peter Watson -- Write to MSDOS disks on the Apple IIgs? -- Impossible! ;-) Michael J. Mahon (mjmahon@aol.com) wrote: : Eric asked: : >Is there an easier way than Apple-Q to quit to test run then typing && to : >get back? And to continue to code with auto line numbering, each time I : >return to the editor I have to place cursor to the last line and Apple-A : >again. : Not that I know of--though OA-9 is the quick way to get to the last : line, but I expect you know that. Actually, there is a quicker way to test run... {Esc}R {Return} 8-) Best of all, and I think this is probably ultimately why I preferred GPLE, the code you just wrote stays on the screen, if the code in question doesn't mung the screen... And I rarely used auto line numbering. Early on I used it, but the more I wrote, the less I used it. Well, I already admitted that my workflow was a little unusual. Probably affected by the fact that I rarely if ever wrote anything down. --Dave Althoff, ][. -- /-\ _ *** Respect rides. They do not respect you. *** /XXX\ /X\ /X\_ _ /X\__ _ _ _____ /XXXXX\ /XXX\ _/XXXX\_ /X\ /XXXXX\ /X\ /X\ /XXXXX _/XXXXXXX\__/XXXXX\/XXXXXXXX\_/XXX\_/XXXXXXX\__/XXX\_/XXX\_/\_/XXXXXX