In article <406dd01c$1_5@corp.newsgroups.com>,
Exegete  <millers@noneofyourbusiness.com> wrote:
 
> Use the ProDOS utilites to copy a disk.
> It recognizes the Pascal format.
> And yes, it is a 16 sector disk.
> In fact, unless I really am senile, 16 sectors started with Pascal.
> 
> Roy
 
Yes it did.  I got my own 16-sector disk controller card ROM's from
buying Apple Pascal early.  This also enabled me to use the 16-sector
version of Apple CP/M, which I also bought early and which in the
beginning came with both a 13-sector and a 16-sector disk (the
13-sector disk lacked, due to space limitations, GBASIC i.e. the
"graphical" version of MBASIC).
 
After having run 16-sector Apple Pascal and 16-sector Apple CP/M,
I finally also switched from 13-sector Apple DOS 3.2 to 16-sector
Apple DOS 3.3 ....
 
The switch from 13-sector to 16-sector floppies on the Apple II also
meant a switch from hard sector ordering to soft sector ordering:
while on 13-srctor disks the sectors were interleaved "the hard way",
i.e. the sector numbers written to the disk were interleaved, on the
16-sector Apple II disks the sector numbers were non-interleaved,
i.e. 0,1,2,3,4,...,D,E,F and sector interleaving was implemented in
software instead, through a (short) look-up table. BTW the Apple
Pascal sector ordering is identical to the ProDOS sector ordering.
 
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In article <bjer6099h97cuqcolu94ikn9dn4hu1beoa@4ax.com>,
 Chris M <chris@sorry.no.spam.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know how to go about backing up Pascal disks?
> I've got an original/complete boxed copy of Apple Pascal 1.2, and
> (from eBay) I grabbed that "APPLE II PASCAL SOFTWARE - 29 Disks" from
> DynaComp that they keep listing every few days.
> 
> Here's an eBay link:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3088447918&category=3802
> 
> I tried using ADT and it doesn't like the disk format, so it's
> probably not a 16-sector disk or something.
> 
> Anyone know how to back these up?
> 
> Thanks,
> // CHRIS

1) Apple's System Utilities can copy a Pascal volume; I used 
version 3.1 successfully.

2) The Apple II Pascal Filer can clone volumes. I was able to 
make a bootable 3.5" disk by formatting with the Pascal program 
FORMATTER from APPLE3 and using the Pascal Filer to copy the 
files from APPLE1, APPLE2, and APPLE3. Use the Filer's Transfer 
command, eg: to copy all the files from unit 4 to unit 11 
keeping the same names

#4:=,#11:$

3) Rob Greene's cross-platform java tool, AppleCommander, works 
on Pascal disk images. The command-line incantation to examine a 
disk image is:

java -jar ac.jar -l pascal1.dsk

Rob has merged the command-line stuff into the main line at

http://sourceforge.net/projects/applecommander/

John
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AppleWorks 5.1 and 4.3 Disk Activities will copy Pascal disks. Likewise,
AppleWorks 2.x and 3.0 with the Beagle Bros utility TimeOut FileMaster
installed will copy Pascal disks.  (It's the same thing - TimeOut FileMaster
was eventually incorporated into AppleWorks, starting with version 4.0 and
later.)

Beverly Cadieux 
TEXAS II an international newsletter for users of AppleWorks(R) 5.1