To MW: His two solutions are to run either DAVE on the Mac Side or PCMacLan or (if he can find a copy) COPSTALK on the PC side. These are quite handy if your GS is connected to the Mac. Example: I see a curious Shrinkit file of a program I would like to use on the GS. Asumptions: PC is running Windows 95 or 98. Mac running System 7.5.3 thru 8.1 (I have not tried this on other Mac OS systems so it might work higher and lower but I do not know). GS running GS/OS 6.0.1 or 5.0.4. There is another way to do this with a dedicated Appleshare 2.0 server built on top of a System 6 Mac (A Mac II works well here) in the loop but, that's another story ;) Note: this will work with any standard Appleshare. Appleshare 3.0 or 3.0.3 (or 2.0 as above) is ONLY required for allowing a IIe or a GS to signon from a Mac server in a diskless enviornment. Well, since my 98 box has the DSL conection: Download the file on the PC. (if lucky the file is compressed as a hqx or sit or bin. Lucky because compressed files travel over internet far easier and with less chance of corruption ZIP will also work here, but Mac folks like the other formats). The file is now in a c:\inbox or whatever directory. If you run COPSTALK you can now map a drive (on the PC side) to the Mac's hard drive. Drag and drop file or files to the Mac drive. If you have Dave (I have version 2.0) you use the Dave agent in the Chooser on the Mac to do the basic same thing and map a drive. and again, Drag and drop. I prefer COPSTALK because I am basiclly not a Mac person (sorry all ;). When the file gets to the Mac drive it will be a MSDOS or PC typed file. Not to worry, drag and drop it on Stuffit and it will transform. If the file is a *.shk or *.sdk you are fine already. Now, your Mac should have a phonenet jack or a Mac Serial cable between it and your GS. Also the Mac should be running a Extension called "Localtalk Bridge". <-- This allows a Ethernet conencted Mac to also talk to other localtalk connected Macs (and incidentally to a GS), also to localtalk connected printers (like a Imagewriter LQ with a network card). Go to the GS and in control panel/Appletalk (You will need a slot open on Appletalk, and the Appletalk extensions and all loaded and installed from your GS/OS 6.0.1 disk (and yes this works on a ROM 01 too!) Open and connect the Mac's hard drive as you would on a Mac in Chooser. I have a Vulcan Drive (gold 100 megs) on my main GS ROM 03 and a 1 meg slinky on Slot 4 so...What I do is: format the slinky as a 800k floppy, connect the Mac as above, navigate to where I left the sdk. double click it. GS Shrinkit sees the file and does its voodoo. I am presented a screen asking "Where do Ya want it?" and I say S4,D1 (which is the Slinky). in the course of time it finishes, I exit Shirnkit and have now a Slot 4 disk of whatever program I wanted. Drag/drop the Slinky on a Vulcan partition and ...DONE! Y'all get all that? Good. there will be a quiz during 3rd period ;) To Mike: I would suggest running MACIPX on the Mac side, and a SAMBA on the Linux side. There was iirc a very nice one that ran on RH 5.2 platform. In this senario both the Mac and the Linux box think they are chatting away on a Novell network. Shameful ain't it? lying to your poor defensless computer(s) like that... -Bart Keeper of The Network from Heck Now back to more modern issues... can I get this Apple /// to talk to my Kaypro? hummm