In article , Jalapeno wrote: > In article , you@somehost.somedomain (Bart) > wrote: > > > ... So I do, putting in a known good user. and > > password (being careful of case) and.... > > "No response from this server. Please try again." > > ....back to square one.. > > It isn't just Apple II's Bart. Same thing happens with my Mac with > System 6.0.8. Mac System 6.0.8 and Mac OS X is relatively easy to fix -- change the AppleShare INIT for the AppleShare extension from System 7.0. However file sizes and access permissions may not be reported accurately in the Finder or MultiFinder. I spent a couple of hours on Sunday playing with my IIgs (which uses Marsha's hacked version of the CDEV) and various AppleShare servers. I'm using OS X 10.1.3 and the IIgs can authenticate properly (password is sent as ClearText). I can copy non-forked files (.gif, .jpeg, .txt, .shk) from the server volume to a ProDOS or HFS disk, and vice versa. I *can't* copy a forked file however; the error code is $0053 (invalid parameter?) and a zero length file is created on the server volume. Using Marsha's CDEV with Services for Macintosh running on NT4 and Windows 2000, I had no problem authenticating (password is sent as ClearText). There were no problems reading or writing any kinds of files to/from the server volume. Note: Windows NT4/2000 Services for Mac servers are only visible to the IIgs if there is a seed router for AppleTalk zones on the network; if your network has just one zone (called *) then you do not have a seed router. You can seed AppleTalk zones using your Windows server or using a hardware router (Fastpath or Gatorbox). I haven't had a chance to test the Apple IIe Workstation card software with OS X. Phil