Steve Hartz writes ... > > Got a copy of the Graphics Exchange and can't run it in bernie. keep > gwetting a "Relocation error" at startup. What is the fix? Did a little checking using our version of TGE (v3.6). It looks like TGE has some very specific ideas about where it wants to put stuff. If any of these areas is detected as not available, you will get an error. Our TGE disk was converted to boot System 5.0.4 and start a simple selector. (This allowed adding some GS applications to the disk which can be delected.) However, it looks like the original TGE disk booted ProDOS-8. According to the manual, if you stick in the diskette and power ON your IIgs, TGE is supposed to boot and display the startup screen within 15 seconds. So, it must boot ProDOS-8. As far as I can tell, TGE will usually not start correctly when plain ProDOS-8 is booted unless you do a cold boot. For example, booting GS System 6.0.1 and, then, getting to the BASIC prompt (e.g. by running BASIC.SYSTEM) and doing a PR#5 will probably not work. GS System 6.0.1 sets things up and marks off space which TGE wants to use-- such as RAM5 RAM disk space, possibly Cache space, etc.. Evidently, a PR#5 boot does not get rid of enough of the GS System environment. Our Sys 5.0.4 TGE disk boots okay via a PR#5 from Sys 6.0.1 and lets you start TGE-- probably because it substitutes a fairly bare bones 5.0.4 environment. Anyway, most real IIgs or Bernie setups are likely to start by booting a fairly busy environment. So, with the standard ProDOS-8 TGE disk, you will probably need to boot from power-up or via an OpenApple-Control-Reset (e.g. with boot Slot set to 5) in order to get a clean enough environment to run TGE. So, try doing a 'cold boot'. BTW, it looks like TGE starts up fine under ProDOS-8 v2.0.3 (again, via a cold boot). The later version of ProDOS could help a lot if you have more than just a few volumes on-line. If you would like to try out our v3.6 disk, go to the GS WorldView archive at http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/a2zine/Utils/ . Download TGEv36_2MG.bin to get the disk image. Download TGEv36_sdk.bin to get the ShrinkIt compressed disk. Info about using the files is in TGEv36_TheGraphicsExchange_info.txt . Rubywand