Cheapest solution I found was an old mac with an ethernet card (LC class will do), system 7.5, and LocalTalk Bridge. I was using an LC III with good results, currently I have moved it up to a 7600 running system 8.1. Localtalk bridge will not run on 8.6 or up, and is rumored to be unreliable on 8.5. I never ran 8.5, so I couldn't say myself. The GS talks to the 7600 vis local talk, the G4 talks to the 7600 via ethernet. The only thing that doesn't work is the GS printing to the HP5MP (also on ethernet). Fortunately, I have localtalk card in the imagewriter, so that works for my limited printing needs from the GS. Mike S. salfter@salfter.dyndns.org.is.invalid (Scott Alfter) wrote in message > > I'm not sure how well this software works on newer Macs or with Mac OS X. > Back when I set up my GatorBox, I used a Quadra 610 running 7.5.3. I know > the config only runs over LocalTalk, so a Mac with Ethernet only won't cut > it. (Once you have some sort of configuration on the Ethernet side, you can > telnet in and do some configuration & maintenance that way.) "Wiley Wiggins" wrote in message news:2004022223024816807%weevil@wileywigginscom... > I'm looking for hardware/software solutions for bringing an Apple IIGS > into an OS X LAN. > I've read about the LANceGS ethernet card but found the 145 dollar > price tag to be absurd for what is basically an experiment in novelty. > I have a LANceGS. It is an Amazing piece of engineering. I admire Mr. Lange's ingenuity. Do you folks realize that other then the 5 or 6 seeded cards from Apple that got out "in the wild" way back in the day, this is the ONLY ethernet option for the Apple II that has come out in the last 12 years? I repeat: ONLY ONE! You folks who have read my musings know I have done a weee bit of investigating into the network side of the Apple II world. I have tried Workstation Cards, Parallel, Serial, Game Port, Assante EN/SC SCSI , IDE ...YOU NAME IT approaches. I have watched all sorts of vapor solutions come and go... Joachim Lange's card is the 1st and ONLY Ethernet card that has broken the vapor barrier and come to the real world. Me hat is off to him! The Lance is a TCP only ethernet card in that it does some cheats in terms of the hardware layer to get along with GS/OS. I hear there is now a ProDOS driver for it too for 8 bit use. At least a program stub of such. see www.a2central.com for news on that. Now for OTHER uses, such as Appletalk..NETBIOS or IPX (yeah yeah I know, who would want such?) ...well.. it is not quite ready for Prime Time...I personally use the LC 475 and a Localtalk bridge over a Localtalk link to the Printer port on my ROM3 for file transfers and printing. I then use the Lance for web access, FTP and mostly for telnet via Spectrum, Kim Howe's Telnet or similar apps. I also use it with Ninjaforce's Samurai IRC client. And in terms of OS X humm ... lets see... I have... a couple of Powerbase(s) on 10.1, a Powertower Pro on 10.1 server, a Umax S900/Sonnet 450 on 10.2.8, a G3 Beige/366 on 10.2.8, a Wind-tunnel dual 867 on 10.2.8... Also A 6500 on 9.1, a 8100 on 8.1 a LC 475 on 7.5.5 (that one is my LT Bridge), IIci on NetBSD, a few antique Powerbooks... PCs on everything from Linux (Debian), BeOS, to various windowz (running either OPSTALK -recommended- or for XP boxes: PCMacLAN; both for Appletalk compatibility). Now, as to the OS X system and GS/OS .....Aye...there's the rub... They do NOT work and play well together. I have not been able to signon to a OS X box and share. OS X does some weirdness with signons that gets in the way. Also, when it came to OS X, Apple re-assigned the ProDOS file type so, ProDOS files are not at all recognized on a OS X box. I have played with KEGS, Bernie and the like in OS X and getting files to them I found somewhat a problem. Oh and getting a USB floppy drive working in an emulator...THAT was a trip!. For any real GS or IIe use on a OS X net I recomend keeping a 68k Mac on the network This box can then act as a File Server and pass things back and forth. -Bart Keeper of the Network From Heck In article , "pilgrimer" wrote: > Now, as to the OS X system and GS/OS .....Aye...there's the rub... They do > NOT work and play well together. I have not been able to signon to a OS X > box and share. OS X does some weirdness with signons that gets in the way. > Also, when it came to OS X, Apple re-assigned the ProDOS file type so, > ProDOS files are not at all recognized on a OS X box. I have played with > KEGS, Bernie and the like in OS X and getting files to them I found > somewhat a problem. Oh and getting a USB floppy drive working in an > emulator...THAT was a trip!. > For any real GS or IIe use on a OS X net I recomend keeping a 68k Mac on the > network This box can then act as a File Server and pass things back and > forth. > > -Bart > Keeper of the Network From Heck As discussed previously in this group, and mentioned in this thread (by Dave Althoff), you should be able to get the GS and Mac OS X talking by enabling AppleTalk File Sharing using the Sharepoints program (and SysPrefs pane) - see http://www.hornware.com/sharepoints/ Mac OS X by default publicises servers via AppleTalk and TCP/IP, but only allows connections over TCP/IP. enabling AppleTalk on the server should let the GS login. My Apple //e Workstation Card arrived yesterday (woo-hoo!), and I'm just itching for the time to hook my //e, my IIgs and my Asante LocalTalk to Ethernet bridge up to my Ethernet network to see how it all connects to our OS 9 and OS X boxes. I will certainly post info once I've done that. Regards Sean ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sean McNamara mailto:sean@macassist.com.au MacAssist Ph: (02) 8920 0866 Authorised Apple Solutions Reseller Fax: (02) 8920 0877 ABN 95 758 412 281 Mobile: 0414 270 132 Sean McNamara (sean@macassist.com.au) wrote: : In article , "pilgrimer" : wrote: : > Now, as to the OS X system and GS/OS .....Aye...there's the rub... They do : > NOT work and play well together. I have not been able to signon to a OS X : > box and share. OS X does some weirdness with signons that gets in the way. : > Also, when it came to OS X, Apple re-assigned the ProDOS file type so, : > ProDOS files are not at all recognized on a OS X box. I have played with : > KEGS, Bernie and the like in OS X and getting files to them I found : > somewhat a problem. Oh and getting a USB floppy drive working in an : > emulator...THAT was a trip!. : > For any real GS or IIe use on a OS X net I recomend keeping a 68k Mac on the : > network This box can then act as a File Server and pass things back and : > forth. : > : > -Bart : > Keeper of the Network From Heck : As discussed previously in this group, and mentioned in this thread (by : Dave Althoff), you should be able to get the GS and Mac OS X talking by : enabling AppleTalk File Sharing using the Sharepoints program (and : SysPrefs pane) - see : http://www.hornware.com/sharepoints/ : Mac OS X by default publicises servers via AppleTalk and TCP/IP, but : only allows connections over TCP/IP. enabling AppleTalk on the server : should let the GS login. : My Apple //e Workstation Card arrived yesterday (woo-hoo!), and I'm just : itching for the time to hook my //e, my IIgs and my Asante LocalTalk to : Ethernet bridge up to my Ethernet network to see how it all connects to : our OS 9 and OS X boxes. I will certainly post info once I've done that. What I found with my system was that the IIgs could log in and *read* files from the OS-X box, but when I tried to *write* files I got an odd file permissions error. By enabling AppleTalk on the OS-X box, I was able to log into the System 7 box and use that as a file server. Now, does there exist a MacIP gateway daemon for Darwin? I can't believe that a MacIP gateway is so frigging difficult that there are no software solutions available for OS-X.......... So far, IPNetRouter has been a non-starter. It seems I can get Open Transport working, or I can get my network working, but not both...IPNetRouter requires Open Transport, but once it's up and running, bye bye AppleTalk. Go figure. --Dave Althoff, Jr. -- /X\ _ _ *** Closed for the season. *** /XXX\ /X\ /X\_ _ /X\__ _ _ _____ /XXXXX\ /XXX\ _/XXXX\_ /X\ /XXXXX\ /X\ /X\ /XXXXX _/XXXXXXX\__/XXXXX\/XXXXXXXX\_/XXX\_/XXXXXXX\__/XXX\_/XXX\_/\_/XXXXXX