So, you have an Apple2 and can handle email only? That means that you cannot get ftp or http files or images, right? Of course, you cannot read .pdf files either because you have an obsolete computer, right? Well, you are told wrong. There is a list that you can subscribe to which tells you all you need to know about emailing efficiently. It is called ACCMAIL. To subscribe write to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.AOL.COM with message in body "subscribe accmail your.id" and you should be on. You can change the setting to digest, too, which I recommend. So, how do you get ftp files? There are a number of addresses which will send you ftp files which accmail tells you about. I use bitftp@pucc.princeton.edu to get ftp files by email. I think that by sending HELP to that address you will get the rules of how to do it. How about surfing the net? Well, I send messages to www4mail@unganisha.idrc.ca OR www4mail@web.bellanet.org with SUBJECT (anything - it will be ignored) and message: get http://www..................html You can expect to receive the www-document in your email box. If you need to look at the source files of the www-page, send message source http://www.................html You also may simply send message HELP to above addresses, if your request fails. This way you will find out whether or not you made a mistake in sending your request. If the http-URL is too long (more than one line), you may expect problems (like Dr.Tom's longer files). Some of the servers will send you image files, too, like .gif or .jpg files. I get these files as file attachments into my mailbox. You have to experiment to see what works for you. Some files are ready to use, others need to be decoded (uuencode or mime) with BISCIT. Well, that is all nice and dandy. How about search engines? Yes, they are available, too. You need to know about http-URLs on keyword1 and keyword2? Send message to www@kfs.org In the body write search keyword1 keyword2 Voila, you are in business. If the http-URL contains a pdf-file, send message to pdf2txt@adobe.com (or to pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu) with message http://www.........pdf and you will get the file back in text format. If you want the pdf-files back in html-format, that can be done,too, by replacing txt by htm. I use Proterm3.1 for surfing by email and have my favorite addresses above as macros available. Enjoy. >> -- ** Adalbert & Barbel Goertz ** ph 719-390-1088 ** Fax: 425-732-9921 -- --- retired in Colorado Springs, (Colorado is a state of mind) --- Our webpage is up now: http://www.cyberspace.org/~goertz (built by Sheppy's WebWorksGS) If you have email only, send message to www4mail@web.bellanet.org In body write: get http://www.cyberspace.org/~goertz +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Colorado Springs Pikes Peak Fidonet 128 Gateway + Colorado Springs, Colorado + User email address: goertza@fatalerr.com + User FidoNet address: 1:128/148