Does anyone know if these two happily co-exist? I have been having some issues were GS/OS will just hang at random places. It seems to go away when Marinetti is removed or if i disable AppleShare (via Control Panel). I have been playing with it for a couple of days and I have concluded that they don't like each other, but I thought I would ask the Guru's on this newsgroup :-) Andrew -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 In article , ground.ecn AppleII Librarian wrote: >I have Appletalk enabled and Marinetti.v3d4 . I am experiencing the same >difficulty with the IIGS occasionally locking up at random (even if not >doing telnet). I also have an unresolved issue with Spectrum (v2.3) >sometimes getting stuck repeating the same few lines over and over with >every key stroke. No solution except to reboot. I haven't done enough playing-around with other stuff since getting MacIP enabled to know if Marinetti and AppleTalk will disagree with each other. The lockups I've seen have all happened in the bundled telnet client and webserver. >I must admit I was pretty excited to telnet into my unix box on ethernet >from my IIGS. Reality is dampening enthusiasm, but I wiil keep playing. >Appleshare is more important to me than telnet. If I can get stable >telnet service I will try to install SAFE.v1.1 for FTP service. So >far, zmodem does NOT work either. ZMODEM won't work over Telnet. It needs an 8-bit-clean communications path, which Telnet doesn't provide. Since I can use AppleTalk to move files between my IIGS, my Mac, and my Linux server (and SMB between my Win2K boxen and my Linux server), I can move files between any of my machines without needing ZMODEM. >I hope to hear from Andrew, Scott, and others trying MacIP. Eventually I >hope to buy a LanceGS card and try the ethernet layer with my SysLink >router. While plugging a IIGS directly into a switch would be a neat hack, a GatorBox is much cheaper and lets you do more. (A MacIP implementation on a IIe with a workstation card would be the shiznit. :-) ) _/_ Scott Alfter / v \ salfter@salfter.dyndns.org (IIGS( http://salfter.dyndns.org Top-posting! \_^_/ pkill -9 /bin/laden >What is the most annoying thing on Usenet? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+EKGSVgTKos01OwkRAm49AJ4xo1A/DcAIQUkcYvF97bg1e6oWmQCgioZ9 QCOUet3p/wKiZXHTrLoajJI= =6JSv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- In article , ground.ecn AppleII > Touche, Appletalk works for GS<->Mac file xfer. But I want GS/Mac<->unix > host file xfers. FTP and zmodem seem the easiest. > snip > If Spectrum/SAFE doesn't work, is Geoff Weiss' GSFTP available anywhere to > test? > I have used SAFE and GWFTP with my LANceGS card, connecting to My Mac Cube running OS X (so basically to unix). SAFE is functional, but for my purposes is too slow for me to use. (A recent test showed that it took 93 seconds to display a listing of the 20 odd files in my root directory.) GWFTP works ok. It's a port of unix style ftp, so it's text only and minimal. It will display the same listing as SAFE almost instantly, however. It seems to transfer files in a fairly reliable manner. However there is a catch: every time you close a connection, it crashes the GS. Also, as far as I know it is only available from the private libraries on Sydicomm, to Syndicomm members. Arachnid has very limited ftp support built in. It doesn't have a means to display an ftp directory, but can transfer a file, if given a valide URL to the file. It seemed to work fine with the trenco site last time I tested it, where the listings are available in simple html, with ftp download links available too. I am in the process of writing ftpNDA, a sister program to my TelnetNDA. Unfortunately I've been in very poor health for the last year which has greatly impeded my progress. Recent weeks have seen a slight improvement on that front, so I'm hoping to be fit enough to get back to the code in a few weeks. By the way, my GS Programs site at http://www.syndicomm.com/~kimhowe has all the download links broken at the moment. I hope to deal with that soon, and will announce here when it's fixed. Hope this is useful information. Kim Howe apple2pd@ground.ecn.uiowa.edu (ground.ecn AppleII Librarian) wrote: > As Lyle S. pointed out, zmodem can work over telnet sessions in some > cases. In my case, it should work since the Mac and GS communicate > through the same IPNR gateway, and the Mac works. I do not know if the > problem lies in TCPIP, MacIP, or Spectrum. (Probably not Spectrum since I > can do zmodem using a direct null-modem connection to a unix box sitting > next to it.) I have no idea if Spectrum's Zmodem was designed to be used with TCP/IP or not. The problem will probably lie in one of these areas: Spectrum's handling of special characters passed across the Telnet connection with Zmodem Spectrum's internal interface between Zmodem implementation and the TCP/IP stack The TCP/IP stack handling of material being passed (there are known issues) Have you notified Ewen about this issue directly? He will probably be able to provide a lot more input on where the problem lies. Cheers, Andrew On 1 Jan 2003 18:10:22 -0800, warnken@mother.com (Sandra Warnken) wrote: >If you have a current upgrade of Spectrum you don't need it. You may not need it to use Spectrum if you are also using Ewen's upgrade to the Desktop Alarm NDA because he added code to Spectrum and Desktop Alarm to let them talk to each other so that Spectrum can disable the Desktop Alarm NDA and use its own routine instead. However, other things can benefit from II Not Distrub being installed as well. Especially communications programs including Marinetti. The big problem that II Not Disturb fixes is that when you ask for the time using the IIgs Toolbox, interrupts are locked out for a relatively long time. II Not Disturb patches out that call with one that works faster and doesn't lock out interrupts for as long. This means you will have less chance of losing incoming characters over the serial port if you have a menu bar clock or something else that calls that particular routine regularly. -- Jeff Blakeney - Dean of the Apple II University in the Apple II Community on Syndicomm.com CUT the obvious from my address if you want to e-mail me