The program is Saltines Super Trancopy or SST. Copied from post in same group, different thread, thankx Moose: **************************************************** Transferring Copy Protected Disks : Apple 2 -> PC **************************************************** Execute SST - Super Saltines Transcopy on the Apple 2 : Select Menu Option 1 - Pirate a Disk Select Menu Option 2 - Pack Enter the Start Track - 0 is the default - just hit enter to keep this value. Enter the End Track - 34 is the default - just hit enter to keep this value. Step - 1 is the default - just hit enter to keep this value. Synchronize Tracks - NO is the default - just hit enter to keep this value. Nibble Count - NO is the default - just hit enter to keep this value. Now you are told to insert disks, and press . So, place the Copy Protected Disk into Drive 1 on your Apple 2 and a blank DOS 3.3 formatted disk into Drive 2, and press . SST will then read the copy protected disk and write this in packed, transferrable format onto the standard DOS 3.3 disk in Drive 2. Only half of the image of the Copy Protected Disk can fit onto the blank disk in Drive 2, so at the half-way point, SST will ask you to place another blank formatted disk into Drive 2. Do, this, and press and SST will complete the process. Now, you have a 2 standard DOS 3.3 floppy disks that each contain half of a complete image of a Copy Protected Disk. These Disks can then be transferred to the PC for use with emulators using ADT, in exactly the same as we transferred Standard Floppy Disks above. (See "Transferring Standard Floppy Disks" above). On the PC side - where you are running an Apple 2 emulator - you will need to use SST (running on an Apple 2 Emulator) to stitch the 2 halves of the Copy Protected Disk's disk images back together again. Let's say you transfer the 2 standard disks as "d1.dsk" and "d2.dsk", we now need to UnPack these disks from within the Apple 2 Emulator on the PC to a special NIB disk image file (you could copy and overwrite an existing NIB file, or else download and use the blank.NIB file from Asimov - I'll assume you have called the NIB file "game.nib" on the PC) : Select Menu Option 1 - Pirate a Disk Select Menu Option 3 - UnPack Select Menu Option 1 - Packed Parms Enter the Start Track - 0 is the default - just hit enter to keep this value. Enter the End Track - 34 is the default - just hit enter to keep this value. Step - 1 is the default - just hit enter to keep this value. Synchronize Tracks - NO is the default - just hit enter to keep this value. Nibble Count - NO is the default - just hit enter to keep this value. Place d1.dsk in drive 1 and game.nib in drive 2, and hit to make SST proceed. Then, when prompted to "turn over the disk", place d2.dsk in drive 1 and leave game.nib in drive 2 and hit and SST will finish the process of rebuilding a virtual disk image copy of the original copy protected floppy disk. You should then have a NIB disk image file that contains the copy protection / formatting information of the original disk along with all of the program code / data from this disk, and this disk should now run under emulation just as the original floppy disk runs on a real Apple 2, only it will be considerably faster under emulation. **************************************************** Transferring Copy Protected Disks : PC -> Apple 2 **************************************************** You can reverse the above process to transfer NIB disk images back to real floppy disks on the Apple 2. To d this, you would use SST on the Apple 2 emulator to pack the NIB disk onto two .DSK disk image files, ADT these across onto 2 floppy disks on the real Apple 2, and then use SST on the real Apple 2 to unpack (stitch) these together again onto a single floppy disk. Hope this is useful. Mike "Moose" O'Malley ____________________________________________________ Moose's Software Valley - Established July, 1996. WEB: http://move.to/moose Email: moose@move.to ____________________________________________________ > > The way you create a disk image now is, a program reads the disk bytes > > from half a disk and stores that data on a whole normal disk. Then it > > is repeated for the second half. These two disks get moved to the other > > pc and merged into a nib image using the emulated version of the > > program. > > really?? what program is that?? is there a program that runs on the > II that can spit out a whole .nib image onto a 3.5" drive? can this > above program read in a .nib and produce a real floppy??