Amazingly despite many requests, I can't find this information anywhere. So here we go: 8 Pin Mini-Din Plug (Apple serial defined below) ------------------- 1 HSKo Out 2 HSKi In 3 TXD- Out 4 GND 5 RXD- In 6 TXD+ Out 7 nc 8 RXD+ In solder view (or socket view) 1 2 + + 3+ +4 +5 + + + 6 7 8 Molex 10 pin connector. (Top of card) (red wire usually goes here, into Molex 10 pin, not folded). 1 2 3 4 5 6 (edge of card) 7 8 9 10 Note: This is my own interpretation, not 'correct' but just as a guide to where the wires go. Molex - Socket 1 4 9 5 8 3 2 1 4 2 6 8 3 7 7 6 No connection to shield as far as I can trace. Hopefully these are correct! Richard -- Apples of various varieties - currently eMac/G5/PowerBook and ancients. Carstuff - Supra and New Beetle, and happy with just two for once. Music stuff - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/music/ - MP3s coming soon! Otherstuff - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/retrotech/