In Richard Kilpatrick wrote: > > I don't know what sort of card it is, since it's not a RAMWorks card > per se, it's a 1Mb Cirtech 'Flipper' Rev 4, there is /zero/ > information online about it! Cirtech used to make a card called the 'Flipster'. Is that what you have? Or maybe they changed the name. The Flipster was a 1MB card for the regular Apple II slots. Here's some text from an ad in Nibble magazine's January 1986 issue: FLIPSTER THE RAMCARD WITH A FUTURE DON'T TAKE A CHANCE ON FUTURE COMPATIBILITY. At Cirtech, we believe in designing for the future. That's why we've developed the CIRTECH FLIPSTER, a ONE MEGABYTE RAMCARD which conforms to the new Apple standard for large memory cards, guaranteeing a bright future for your Apple //e or ][+. FULL ONE MEGABYTE OF MEMORY - no need for clumsy add-on's NO PATCHING REQUIRED for ProDOS (including APPLEWORKS), DOS 3.3 or PASCAL 1.3 ACCELERATES APPLE //e and ][+ PERFORMANCE - even on complex software FLIP-FLOP PROGRAM MANAGER - allows switching between programs, even if they run under different operating systems FITS IN ANY STANDARD SLOT - you can have up to _SIX MEGABYTES_ in your Apple FREE SUPPORT - ensuring compatibility with earlier versions of CP/M and PASCAL FANTASTIC VALUE........................only $490.00 From the fact that they claim it "conforms to the new Apple standard for large memory cards" I would think that it's compatible with the Apple II Memory Expansion Card (a.k.a. "Slinky"). The Apple cards have a diagnostic in ROM. The Cirtech card may or may not have it, and it might be in a different location. To run the test on an Apple card: enter the Monitor (type CALL -151 from BASIC) then type Cn0AG (replacing 'n' with the slot number the card is in e.g. C50AG for slot 5). -- Roger Johnstone, Invercargill, New Zealand http://vintageware.orcon.net.nz/ ________________________________________________________________________ No Silicon Heaven? Preposterous! Where would all the calculators go? Kryten, from the Red Dwarf episode "The Last Day" On 8/9/04 11:45 am, in article 20040908224515473+1200@News.Individual.NET, "Roger Johnstone" wrote: > Cirtech used to make a card called the 'Flipster'. Is that what you have? > Or maybe they changed the name. The Flipster was a 1MB card for the > regular Apple II slots. Mine's definitely called a Flipper - 2 bits of 'proof' now, in that it's on the PCB, and... > Here's some text from an ad in Nibble magazine's January 1986 issue: > > FLIPSTER > THE RAMCARD WITH A FUTURE Well, that sounds a lot like this device. 1Mb, standard slot, and Slinky-friendly 256Kx1 RAMs. > From the fact that they claim it "conforms to the new Apple standard for > large memory cards" I would think that it's compatible with the Apple II > Memory Expansion Card (a.k.a. "Slinky"). The Apple cards have a > diagnostic in ROM. The Cirtech card may or may not have it, and it might > be in a different location. > > To run the test on an Apple card: enter the Monitor (type CALL -151 from > BASIC) then type Cn0AG (replacing 'n' with the slot number the card is > in e.g. C50AG for slot 5). Well, whaddya know. C50AG: ..."FLIPPER SELF-TEST, TAKES ABOUT 1 MINUTE PUSH ANY KEY TO STOP" 4 Passes and it's fine, so I stopped it for now to reboot. So clearly it is a card which appears to be Slinky compatible, should theoretically work in any slot, and work for AppleWorks 5 - yet AppleWorks 5 doesn't work with it. Very strange. I think I need to acquire a 3.5" drive and controller for the IIe. AppleWorks 2.0 had 'problems'. Richard -- Apples of various varieties - currently eMac/G5/PowerBook and ancients. Carstuff - Supra and New Beetle, and happy with just two for once. Music stuff - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/music/ - MP3s coming soon! Otherstuff - http://www.dmc12.demon.co.uk/retrotech/