I've been tinkering with Kegs and transfering some of my Apple //gs images over to a Linux machine via a 57600 serial connection. I have tried a lot of my GS/OS, P16 and P8 applications and so far I'm happy at how well the emulation works ... my biggest surprise was "SoftSwitch" which allows multiple 128K P8 images to be saved and restored. The only issue I've had was that "softswitch.init" CDA caused a problem where I couldn't get into the control panel. I don't remember what ".init" is and I haven't looked into it yet. I have tried a 1.44Meg MSDOS ".raw" image and it is viewed just fine under the read-only FST. There is a read-write utility under GNO/ME so that would be interesting as well. Does any know if a read-write MSDOS FST was ever released for GS/OS 6.0.1? The one application I run the most right now is my old BattleChess image ... I (and my kids) have missed that game. The Windows version doesn't run under the newer MSWindows products sowe have been without it for some time. I have put the Windows Kegs on the kids machines and they are having fun as well. The big issues (?) so far are: - GNO/ME doesn't seem to work. It gives a "disk may be damaged" error during GS/OS boot. It has happened on 2 images so I'm wondering if anyone else has GNO/ME 2.0.4 running under the emulator. I really wanted to get this one going ... it would be very interesting to have GNO/ME running side-by-side with a Linux shell. :-) - A large HFS image crashes the emulator and corrupts the BRAM and saves the corruption to config.kegs. I haven't tried a small HFS image yet but has anyone had this working? Thanks for any comments! -- ------------------------------------------------ http://www3.sympatico.ca/dmitton SPAM Reduction: Remove "x." from my domain. ------------------------------------------------ In article <5eqkrvompu213pvv4a8ke0b02ti9c7o0uj@4ax.com>, Doug Mitton wrote: >I have tried a 1.44Meg MSDOS ".raw" image and it is viewed just fine >under the read-only FST. There is a read-write utility under GNO/ME >so that would be interesting as well. Does any know if a read-write >MSDOS FST was ever released for GS/OS 6.0.1? Not that I know of. >The big issues (?) so far are: > >- GNO/ME doesn't seem to work. It gives a "disk may be damaged" error >during GS/OS boot. It has happened on 2 images so I'm wondering if >anyone else has GNO/ME 2.0.4 running under the emulator. I really >wanted to get this one going ... it would be very interesting to have >GNO/ME running side-by-side with a Linux shell. :-) I have a GNO/ME setup running in KEGS that works OK for me, except I never really got the GNO/ME tty serial ports to work right (but other KEGS users have said it works for them). In my experience, GNO/ME is quite buggy and flaky and so I don't debug problems unless a user gives a set of steps which works on a real IIgs but fails on KEGS. >- A large HFS image crashes the emulator and corrupts the BRAM and >saves the corruption to config.kegs. I haven't tried a small HFS >image yet but has anyone had this working? Did you install the HFSPATCH? You can see if you have it installed by checking the modification time of SYSTEM/FSTs/HFS.FST. If it's October 4, 1995, then you have the patch. Otherwise, download from ground the file "apple16/System/Patches/PATCHHFS.SHK", put it into a disk image using to_pro: "to_pro -800 PATCHHFS.SHK", then mount the "POOF1" image in s5d1 in KEGS, and extract and run the patching program. The patch has docs explaining the HFS FST bug. Thanks for reminding me about this--I'll put the patch on the next release's SAMPLE_IMAGE. >Thanks for any comments! > >-- >------------------------------------------------ > http://www3.sympatico.ca/dmitton > SPAM Reduction: Remove "x." from my domain. >------------------------------------------------ Kent Dickey In article , kadickey@alumni.princeton.edu (Kent Dickey) wrote: > In article <5eqkrvompu213pvv4a8ke0b02ti9c7o0uj@4ax.com>, Doug Mitton > wrote: > > > >- GNO/ME doesn't seem to work. It gives a "disk may be damaged" error > >during GS/OS boot. It has happened on 2 images so I'm wondering if > >anyone else has GNO/ME 2.0.4 running under the emulator. I really > >wanted to get this one going ... it would be very interesting to have > >GNO/ME running side-by-side with a Linux shell. :-) > > I have a GNO/ME setup running in KEGS that works OK for me, except I never > really got the GNO/ME tty serial ports to work right (but other KEGS users > have said it works for them). In my experience, GNO/ME is quite buggy > and flaky and so I don't debug problems unless a user gives a set of steps > which works on a real IIgs but fails on KEGS. > I had never tried GNO/ME on real hardware or in simulation, but when I saw KEGS 0.82 released I decided to try it and GNO/ME at the same time. (I've used previous versions of KEGS as well as other emulators such as Bernie ][ the Rescue, etc., but none with GNO/ME...) I found that I could install GNO/ME 2.0.6 successfully from the source disc images, but that under every emulator and every host OS I tried, GNO/ME seems to randomly hang. I can boot it successfully, but sometimes after doing something as simply as "ls" it will completely stop responding to keyboard input. So I think Mr Dickey could be correct in stating that GNO/ME is flaky.... FWIW. -- Hey spambots! Harvest this! .!.. Unsolicited commercial email (uce) should be sent to: uce@ftc.gov kadickey@alumni.princeton.edu (Kent Dickey) wrote: >In article <5eqkrvompu213pvv4a8ke0b02ti9c7o0uj@4ax.com>, Doug Mitton wrote: >>I have tried a 1.44Meg MSDOS ".raw" image and it is viewed just fine >>under the read-only FST. There is a read-write utility under GNO/ME >>so that would be interesting as well. Does any know if a read-write >>MSDOS FST was ever released for GS/OS 6.0.1? > >Not that I know of. At this point I'm looking for a way to transfer data easily between Linux and Kegs. It looks like I have to experiment and get a large HFS image file made, get it working under kegs then under Linux. MSDOS would be a uni-directional transfer I guess. I'm not sure how large of a volume "ms-tools" will handle under GNO/ME. >>The big issues (?) so far are: >> >>- GNO/ME doesn't seem to work. It gives a "disk may be damaged" error >>during GS/OS boot. It has happened on 2 images so I'm wondering if >>anyone else has GNO/ME 2.0.4 running under the emulator. I really >>wanted to get this one going ... it would be very interesting to have >>GNO/ME running side-by-side with a Linux shell. :-) > >I have a GNO/ME setup running in KEGS that works OK for me, except I never >really got the GNO/ME tty serial ports to work right (but other KEGS users >have said it works for them). In my experience, GNO/ME is quite buggy >and flaky and so I don't debug problems unless a user gives a set of steps >which works on a real IIgs but fails on KEGS. It looks like 3 of 4 of my GS/OS image transfers were corrupted. I'm trying to re-do GNO/ME now as a file archive transfer and see if that works any better. The strange thing is that 3 of 3 ProDOS8 image transfers worked 100%. Its tough to get back into the Apple speed mind-set, this is a time consuming process! :-) I also found GNO/ME very flakey on my //gs BUT was hopeing it was a hardware issue and that it would work better under the emulator. I had the serial ports working for dialup and as a terminal into my x86 machine of the day. I guess after I get all this going I'll have to see how the serial port emulation works ... I also have a Spectrum II installation that I'll have to try out. >>- A large HFS image crashes the emulator and corrupts the BRAM and >>saves the corruption to config.kegs. I haven't tried a small HFS >>image yet but has anyone had this working? > >Did you install the HFSPATCH? You can see if you have it installed >by checking the modification time of SYSTEM/FSTs/HFS.FST. If it's >October 4, 1995, then you have the patch. Otherwise, download >from ground the file "apple16/System/Patches/PATCHHFS.SHK", put it into >a disk image using to_pro: "to_pro -800 PATCHHFS.SHK", then mount the >"POOF1" image in s5d1 in KEGS, and extract and run the patching program. >The patch has docs explaining the HFS FST bug. Yes, I have that patch already ... "HFS.FST Wed Oct 4, 1995 12:00 AM". >Thanks for reminding me about this--I'll put the patch on the next >release's SAMPLE_IMAGE. > >>Thanks for any comments! > >Kent Dickey I guess for no other reason (well for fun too) this exercise is forcing me to recover all that work, energy and documentation I used and generated on the Apple over to Linux then I can back it up on CD and archive it. The fact that I can easily access it without powering up the //gs is a plus as well. By-the-way, before I forget, its a great emulator! Thanks! I had purchased a lot of Apple //c and //gs software (applications, languages and utilities), a lot of hardware and downloaded a lot from Genie. I also wrote and ported a few utilities that are still floating around and they all seem to work. It seems the problems I've seen up to now are all corrupt transfer issues, except for the one "softswitch.init" CDA file. I have tried //gs emulators before (kegs included) but could never get them to compile successfully under my old Slackware installation. Then out of the blue I see the notice for V0.82, it compiles perfectly under my new Debian installation and I can play BattleChess again! :-) I put it on the kids windows machines and they are enjoying it as well ... BattleChess that is. Well, I've rambled on long enough! Thanks for the pointers and the emulator. I'll be back after I get these images working properly. -- ------------------------------------------------ http://www3.sympatico.ca/dmitton SPAM Reduction: Remove "x." from my domain. ------------------------------------------------