Mike wrote in message news:... > Jeff Blakeney wrote: > > > > Why should he take a risk, even a very small risk, if there is > > absolutely no reason for him to? Why risk possible problems when you > > can just tell people how to create their own image? It is quite easy > > to create a ROM image from your real Apple II and you do need to have > > a real Apple II to have any right to be using Apple's ROM code. > > It's not so easy - and something beyond many people's abilities I would > say. Of course you could respond that if you don't have the know-how to do > that then you shouldn't be tinkering with an emulator in the first place. > But in addition, Dapple uses some versions of the Apple ROMs that aren't > shared with any other emulators, which is why including the right ones > might simply be a matter of convenience. If Dosius doesn't want to take > the risk (which is his good right, even though my point is it is no risk) > then why won't he at least let others package the ROM files for him? > > > Sweet 16, Kegs32, > > XGS, ApplePC and I believe Apple Oasis and probably others do not > > include ROM images with the emulator. > > My version of ApplePC came with the ROM images. And I'd call AppleWin a > pretty major emulator nowadays. > > How about a copromise: Dosius releases the exact specs of the necessary > ROM files (name, size, CRC32) and someone (maybe myself) can provide them > separately? > > Mike Dapple ][ accepts: * ROM dumps which can be created according to the directions in the archive. They will be sized 12288 (][, ][+) or 16128 (//e, old //c). * AppleWin/ApplePC ][+ ROMs. * The next version will accept AppleWin //e ROMs. * ApplePC 32K //e ROMs. * ApplePC 32K //c ROMs. The filenames are: apple2.rom 12288 Apple ][+ =FPBASIC D000,FFFF apple2m.rom 12288 Apple ][ (Monitor) D000,FFFF apple2o.rom 12288 Apple ][ (Autostart) =INTBASIC D000,FFFF apple2eo.rom 16128 Apple //e (old version) C100,FFFF apple2e.rom 16128 Apple //e (new version) C100,FFFF apple2co.rom 16128 Apple //c (Slot 7=Slot 6 Drive 2 version) C100,FFFF apple2c.rom 32768 Apple //c (AppleTalk stubs version) as in ApplePC Fair use policy would probably protect your right to dump the ROM from your own ][ to use with an emulator as long as you are not using the ][ at the same time. It would *not* permit you to take those dumps or other dumps and post them on the Internet. And *I* forbid bundling the emulator with ROMs (it's a violation of *my* copyright on Dapple ][ as well as Apple's and Microsoft's on the ROMs). This is a non-issue since ApplePC's ROMs have always worked with Dapple ][. -uso.