Greg Dunn wrote: > Our local Goodwill center has acquired a number of IIgs boxes. I have > a ROM 01 (or whatever it's called around here ;-) and would like to > have a ROM 03 (ditto) to try some tricks with the slots that are clumsy > with the 01 machines. > > Anyway... is there a reliable method to detect the ROM revision > WITHOUT turning the machine on? Lots of ways, if you can look at the motherboard. Some that come to mind: - Battery position and mounting (in a socket on the ROM 3, soldered to the motherboard on a ROM 00/01). - Number of ROM chips (two for the ROM 3, one for the ROM 00/01). They are 28 pin DIP, roughly in the middle of the visible part of the motherboard, and are socketed. - Motherboard copyright/production date (1989 for the ROM 3, 1986 for the ROM 00/01). - IIe power supply and keyboard connection positions are present in the ROM 00/01, but missing in the ROM 3. - In general, the Ensoniq DOC chip (lower right corner, 40 pin DIP) is socketed in the ROM 00/01, but soldered directly to the motherboard in the ROM 3. (This may not be conclusive). - Number of RAM chips in the "fast" bank (four for the ROM 00/01, eight for the ROM 3). You could also identify the chip type: 64Kx4 for the ROM 00/01, 1Mx1 for the ROM 3 (the circuit diagram mentions the part number HM511000, but they might use other brands). The "slow" RAM bank is the same for both motherboards (four 64Kx4 chips). You could probably look at the part numbers on some of the chips (e.g. the FPI/CYA or the ROMs), but I don't particularly want to unbury my machines to check the details right now. It should be possible to identify the machine type from the serial number (on the bottom of the case), but I don't know the ranges. I don't think Apple were stamping the manufacture date on the serial number label that far back (they were by the mid 90's). -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz Snail mail: P O Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand