Robert C. wrote: > "The Wizard of Oz" wrote in message > news:pan.2005.03.02.20.14.15.36310@emeraldcity.gov... > >>On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 14:53:28 -0500, Robert C. wrote: >> >> >>>"The Wizard of Oz" wrote in message >>>news:pan.2005.03.01.19.13.07.414826@emeraldcity.gov... >>> >>>>On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 13:21:27 -0500, Robert C. wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>I was wondering if there was a way of using modern components such as >>> >>>Hard >>> >>>>>Drives, Zip Drives, 3.5" Floppy Drives on the Apple ][+ computer? >>>>> >>>>>Thanks >>>>>~Robert~ >>>> >>>>Short answer... Each will work. >>>> >>>>Detailed answer... You need to find the appropriate controller first. >>>> >>>>Later >>>>Mike >>> >>>OK, where do I find the controllers to do such a task? >>> >>>~Robert~ >> >>Hmmm... I thought the others would be more specific. >> >>Generally hard drives and zip drives can be connected with SCSI cards. >>The two types in common usage are the Apple SCSI card (the rev C or newer >>is always a good choice) or the Ramfast. Either of these should do. If you >>have a SCSI card you can use Mac compatible storage. There is also talk >>about connecting IDE (PC) hard drives and Flash drives to the Apple. I >>don't know if either of these will work with a ][+. Then again I haven't >>asked... If they will work then these will be your best bet for modern >>equipment. As to where to find them, ask a specific question such as >>"Where can I buy an IDE controller card for my ][+?" in a new thread. Some >>of the people making these devices should respond. >> >>Options to connect a 3.5 drive to your computer are to say the least >>harder to find. I used to have a Universal Disk Controller card at one >>point. It did the trick for my Unidisk (which is still connected to a Mac >>Plus). Apples Superdrive card may work with a ][+. It was initially >>designed so the GS could access 1.44MB floppies. Don't get confused with >>the Mac Superdrive which is completely different. Other cards may be >>available, but I am unaware of them. There are a couple of friendly people >>here selling hardware. If they can't help then check e-bay. >> >>Later >>Mike >> >> > > > Anyone familiar with Stéphane Guillard's Apple II IDE/ATA interface > (http://s.guillard.free.fr/Apple2IDE/Apple2IDE.htm)? The circuit is simple > enough, but I wonder about the fact that there is absolutely no controller > or ROM built into the the circuit to control the drive at all. > > ~Robert~ > > Every IDE drive has the drive controller on the hard drive. IDE=Integrated Drive Electronics With IDE, the controller electronics are built into the drive itself, requiring a simple circuit in the PC for connection. IDE drives were attached to earlier PCs using an IDE host adapter card. Today, two Enhanced IDE (EIDE) sockets are built onto the motherboard, and each socket connects up to two drives via a 40-pin ribbon cable for CD-ROMs and similar devices and an 80-wire cable for fast hard disks (see below). http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?method=4&dsid=1512&dekey=IDE&gwp=8&curtab=1512_1