I have used ADT wit a IIc and it worked. I had built years earlier a converter for the IIc that has a 9pin male connector. I don't know where it is, but this diagram looks right. http://membres.lycos.fr/apple2c/tech/Transfert.htm Recreated in ascii for those who need it: Signal 25pin 9pin IIc Signal Rx 3 2 to 4 Tx Tx 2 3 to 5 Rx Gnd 7 5 to 2 Gnd DSR & CD 6+8 6+1 to 1 DTR DTR 20 4 to 3 DSR As listed the IIc wires are as follows: 2 5 4 3 1 Thankx, Ed Steven Santoni wrote: > Anyone tried using ADT with an Apple 2C. ... what pin-outs did you use? I can probably build a cable In that case take the pin out form here to wire it up... :) http://www.a2central.com/features/2000-08/27-iic/ Thankx, Ed Steven Santoni wrote: >this is a IIC Plus with the 8 pin mini-din serial ports (not the 5 pin) ... heheheh But the concept is the same...