Apple II Display Monitors

 

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001- How can I fix an unstable display?

002- I'm using a TV + IIc RF module. How can I improve the display?

003- What monitor repair Safety precautions are recommended?

004- How do I discharge the High Voltage anode?

005- How do I open my RGB monitor's case and get set for repairs?

006- What tools and solder should I use for repairs?

007- What's the fix for a flickering, Jumping, display?

008- How can I fix an all-red, all-blue, etc. monitor display?

009- Is there any more RGB Adjustments info?

010- How do I adjust Centering on my GS RGB color monitor?

011- How do I adjust Focus & Intensity on a blurry GS RGB Monitor?

012- What is a replacement for the RGB "flyback" power transistor?

013- How do I fix sporatic Shrinking and Flicking in-out of Focus?

014- How do I fix a serious case of shimmy on my GS monitor?

015- Will the Amiga 1084 monitor work on my GS?

016- What is the pinout for Commodore's 1084s monitor?

017- What is a "composite video monitor"?

018- Why doesn't hires look as good on my GS RGB monitor?

019- How can I to do the "Color Killer Mod" on a //e?

020- My A2 display doesn't work with a "TV/Game Switch". How come?

021- Can I use a color TV with my IIc+?

022- What is the IIc+ video pin configuration?

023- Where can I buy a replacement RGB monitor for my GS?

024- What kind of RGB monitors will work with a IIc?

025- Can I replace my GS RGB monitor with one from a PC?

026- What are the specs and pin-out for the GS RGB monitor?

027- Do I need monochrome monitor to get a clear 80-col display?

028- Is there a high-quality replacement for RGB monitors?

029- Can I use a GS RGB monitor with my IIc?

030- Why does a composite monitor I added show a fuzzy dim display?

031- Is my SecondSight board the cause of increased system crashes?

032- Why do Inwords and PublishIt bomb on my SecondSight board?

033- How many dots are actually sent to the GS monitor per line?

034- My GS RGB monitor takes a long time to get bright. A fix?

 

 

 

 

 

Monitor Repair Mini-Manual (Q&A 001-014) 4/98 version

 

This mini-manual describes Repairs & Adjustments which usually

involve removing the case. Before removing the case, check to see that

the your problems are not due to a poorly connected monitor cable or

misadjusted monitor controls.

 

 

From: Rubywand

 

001- My display is sharp but it seems to be unstable. Is there

a quick, easy fix for this?

 

Maybe. First, check your cable connections to make sure they are

solid. Also, try diddling the side and back controls. Sometimes, these

become dirty or develop bad spots.

 

If diddling a control seems to cure or nearly cure an unstable,

jumping, etc. display, you can be fairly sure that a squirt of Control

Cleaner will help. The cleaner needs to reach the control's resistance

element-- the place where the wiper touches the carbon track in a

potentiometer-- and you should turn the control back and forth after

squirting the cleaner. Probably, you will need to remove the case to get

a good shot at the dirty control.

 

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002- My Apple IIc has the IIc RF modulator module and is connected

to a color TV through a TV/Game switch. The color is okay but

the display is more or less ragged depending on where I run

the cable. Is there a way to get a better, more stable display?

 

If you are using a plain hi-fi type cable to connect from your IIc

modulator to the TV/Game switch, then, changing to a video cable may

help. If you are using a much longer cable than necessary, try a

shorter cable.

 

Another popular trick is to form any unused length into one or more

loops (use wire ties or tape to hold the loops together). Wrapping

unused cable length around a ferrite or iron core (e.g. from an old

transformer) is a variation on the same idea.

 

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003- What Safety precautions should I take when working

on my monitor?

 

Basically: unplug the monitor and let sit for a day, wear goggles,

work on a non-conductive table surface, do not stress CRT neck.

 

Unplugging the monitor and letting it sit for a few hours reduces

the danger of shock from stored charges; it does not eliminate it. The

usual warning for this kind of work is AVOID touching two different

circuit points at the same time. Like, don't touch the metal chassis and

the conductive surface of the CRT at the same time.

 

WEAR protective GOGGLES. If you should, somehow, bump or stress the

CRT neck-- as in jumping when you get shocked-- it may break. The result

may be a peaceful THOOP! or the CRT may implode in a spray of glass.

(Avoid using the CRT's neck to support the monitor in any position.)

 

Work on a wooden or plastic-topped table with plenty of space. Try

to position yourself, tools, and the monitor so that when you get

'stung', the chances of breaking something are reduced.

 

As much as posible, avoid using heavy tools of any kind. An

inadvertant tap from a mini-screwdriver is much less likely to crack the

CRT than a bonk from a full-sized screwdriver or pair of pliers.

 

Rubber gloves are probably a good idea so long as they do not get

in the way. Of course, pointy connections and components can puncture

gloves.

 

It's a good idea to clip a wire to the chassis and touch the other

end to the conductive surface of the CRT a few times before doing any

work in order to drain off any charge there.

 

Note: Several places in a monitor or TV carry high enough voltages to

deliver an uncomfortable shock. Draining the charge from one point does

not guarantee that other points have been discharged.

 

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From: Joe Walters

 

004- How do I discharge the High Voltage?

 

The HV charge (20,000+ volts) might not be much reduced by just waiting

a few hours (or days), especially if you are in a low humidity location

and the tube, etc., are of good quality. You can, probably, _reduce_ the

shock hazard by discharging the High Voltage at the anode. You can not,

really, expect to eliminate the shock hazard. (See WARNING below.)

 

1. There is a long wire (called the anode) that goes from the high

voltage power supply to the top of the tube where it is snapped

into a hole. You can't see the hole because there is a rubber

shield built onto the wire. The end of the wire goes to a metal

clip which, without the rubber shield, looks somewhat as below.

One squeezes the clip so the end slips into the hole in the tube.

--- ---

== \ / ===== back of CRT

\ / <-- metal clip (This is what your grounded

| screwdriver needs to touch.)

[|]

[|] insulated Anode lead going to HV module

[|]

 

Needless to say, UNPLUG the monitor before beginning. Simply

turning it off isn't good enough.

 

2. Get a clip lead and clip one end to a long slender screwdriver

 

3. Clip the other end to the metal chassis of the TV (i.e the

metal frame parts)

 

4. Carefully! slip the screwdriver tip under the rubber flap on the

top of the tube until it touches the internal wire that both

holds the anode wire in place and conducts electricity.

 

Step 4 may result in a somewhat loud "SNAP" as the tube is discharged.

Be prepared so you don't jump and break something.

 

WARNING: After "discharging", do _not_ assume that no High Voltage is

present. Almost certainly, some High Voltage remains or may reappear

over time.

 

 

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From: Rubywand

 

005- How do I open my RGB monitor's case and get set for doing

internal adjustments or repairs?

 

Whatever it is you plan to fix, if you remove the monitor case, you

will probably need to unplug the cable running from the circuit board to

the Controls/Switch Module on the side of the case. Use 'whiteout',

nail polish, etc. to mark the position of the plug. In more detail ...

 

1. Unplug everything from the monitor & let it sit for a day.

 

2. Put on protective GOGGLES. Place the unit face down on a wooden or

plastic-topped surface with lots of space and good lighting. Remove the

the screws. Place the unit in nomal position.

 

3. Have a fat magazine ready. Slide the case off until you are able

to see the control leads plugged into the main board on the right side

of the case. Mark the plug position with 'white-out', nail polish, etc..

Unplug the connector.

 

4. Slide off the case while supporting the monitor and slide the fat

magazine under the circuit board to prop up the monitor from behind.

 

 

5. Discharge the HV (optional, but, generally, a good idea).

 

6. <Do adjustments, fixes on Monitor>

 

7. When done, reinstall the control assembly.

 

8. Still wearing GOGGLES, support the monitor, remove the magazine,

slide on the case, reconnect the plug, finish sliding on the case,

replace screws.

 

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006- What tools and solder should I use for repairs?

 

For any soldering use a good quality pencil-style iron rated at

25-40 watts with a holder and sponge. Use high quality (60/40 tin/lead

or better) rosin core solder (e.g. Kester "44" 20 gauge).

 

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007- How do fix a Flickering, Jumping, display which sometimes

collapses to a line?

 

If the monitor exhibits major flickering, periodic collapse of the

display to a line, etc., then it may help to know that a common source

of such problems is one or more bad connections where the High Voltage

module is joined to the main circuit board. (This module is the black

thing with a HV lead running to the CRT-- it's near the left, back. The

slotted nub controls in its case set Focus and base Intensity.) Often

these connections look okay because it is hard to see the small

fractures in the solder surrounding the pins.

 

The cure is to resolder all of the pins coming from the module (on

the under-side of the circuit board). Before doing the soldering, clip

a wire to the metal chassis and touch the other end to each HV module

pin and other points in the area. While soldering, avoid touching

anything conductive on the monitor with anything but the iron and

solder.

 

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008- Suddenly my monitor has an all-blue (all-red, etc.) screen!

How do I fix this?

 

You probably have a blown choke on the little chroma board mounted

to the back of the CRT. The choke will be connected to one of the

larger, R/G/B output transistors. Use an Ohmmeter to find the open

choke. Replace the bad choke with 'one like it' or brew your own: wind

about 25-30 turns of #30 wire on a small ferrite core.

 

A more detailed procedure is presented below ....

 

1. The part that causes the problem when it fails is a "choke" or

"inductor" , it is mounted on a small circuit board attached to the back

of the monitor tube itself. This part looks like a small blue ceramic

ball with two leads coming out the bottom, and is color coded for 10

microhenries.

 

2. There are three of these items on that circuit board, and if any one

of them fails, the symptom is a screen all of one color, with total loss

of any controls of the monitor. The parts are identified by number, and

what color the screen is will tell you which one to replace.

L6R2 for a Red screen

L6G2 for a Green screen

L6B2 for a Blue screen

 

3. You can probably get a 10 microhenry choke at Radio Shack, or it is

available for $1.28 (plus a $5 Handling charge) from Digikey Corporation

at (800) 344-4539. They take Mastercard, Visa, and C.O.D.. The Digikey

part number is M8025-ND.

 

4. After replacing this part, the monitor colors may need to be

readjusted via the small color trimpots on the same circuit board.

 

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From: David Fretz

 

009- Any more RGB Adjustments info?

R13- RGB Intensity

C86- Horizontal Position on RGB

C85- NTSC Color Hue Adjustment

C45- NTSC Frequency Adjustment

 

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From: James Poore

 

010- How do I adjust Centering on my GS RGB color monitor?

 

Color monitors do vertical and horzontal centering differently than

do monochrome monitors. Almost all color monitors have either a jumper

arrangement or actual centering controls, sometimes both. Centering

adjustments are usually located on the PCB with no access holes, so the

back will most likely have to be removed to get to them.

 

If your monitor uses jumpers, there should be 3 tabs that each

jumper can be connected to. For vertical adjustment the tabs should be

marked as 'up', 'down', and center. If your pix is too high, then you

would connect the jumper to the down tab. For horizontal adjustment the

three tabs should be marked 'left', 'center', and 'right'.

 

If your monitor has centering controls, then adjust for best

centering.

 

 

Many GS monitors use small tab switches to adjust centering. These

are located near the back of the main circuit board.

 

 

Adjustment of Vertical Size, etc. via shafts on back of GS monitor

can affect centering. For small changes, these adjustments may get the

job done.

 

Adjustment of Intensity and Focus (see below) can affect centering.

 

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From: Rubywand

 

011- How do I adjust Focus and Intensity on a blurry

GS RGB Monitor?

 

These adjustments may also help cure display "bowing", etc..

 

Intensity and Focus controls are on the High Votage Module (black

module near back of circuit board) inside the case.

 

Follow procedure outlined earlier for safety (e.g. unplug, wait,

wear goggles, ...) and removing the case.

 

Note the position of the two controls on the HV Module (at the

left, back). Mark the back of the cover where handy access hole should

be. Take the case cover to another area (i.e. away from the exposed

CRT neck). Remove the control assembly from the right side of the

case.

 

Using a Dremel tool, hole saw, ... cut an approx. 1" diameter hole

in the back of the case. Use this opportunity to give the case interior

a good cleaning. (If you wash it, be very sure it's dry before

continuing.)

 

Reinstall the control assembly.

 

Put everything back.

 

Reconnect cable and AC cord. Turn on the computer & monitor. Let it

sit 10-20 minutes. Use the normal side of case controls to get the

brightest, 'decent-focus' picture you can obtain.

 

Using a plastic TV technician's tool (and flashlight if necessary)

adjust the Intensity and Focus controls (through the hole in back) on

the HV module to get a good looking display.

 

Work back and forth between the back and side controls. What you're

aiming for is a display with good brightness and sharp focus when the

side controls are near their middle positions.

 

Cover the back hole using a piece of duct tape, a large sticker,

etc.. (The opening is a potential shock hazard, especially if the

monitor is within reach of children.)

 

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From: "John F. Reeves" and Sam Goldwasser

 

012- I need to replace the High Voltage "flyback" power transistor

in my Applecolor monitor. The part bears no manufacturer's

mark, just two lines of text:

 

D1650

7A

 

What part should I get?

 

 

The transistor is part Q502 on the PCB of the Applecolor RGB

monitor, manufactured in 1987. This is the only power transistor in the

HV section, the only one which is on a heat sink. ...."

 

D1650 is a 2SD1650 which crosses to an ECG2331. You should be able

to pick one up at your local electronics shop. Try MCM Electronics,

Dalbani, etc..

 

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From: Rubywand

 

013- How can I fix sporatic Shrinking and Flicking

in-out of Focus?

 

Arcing from the metal brace to the HV module can cause the display

to momentarily shrink and flick out of focus.

 

Follow safety and setup procedures outlined earlier.

 

The cure is to bend the brace up enough to increase the arc path

and clean the surfaces involved. Apply HV dope to the brace and module

where distances are small.

 

If the case interior seems pretty clogged with dust and gunk, it's

a good idea to remove the side-mounted Controls/Switch (C/S) Module and

give the case a good washing. (Be very sure it is well dried before

replacing.) You should also clean the two controls on the C/S Module

with spray-in Control Cleaner.

 

Before putting the case back, this may be a good time to adjust

base Intensity and Focus (the two nub controls on the HV module).

Position the monitor so that screen is easy to see and the nub controls

are accessible.

 

Plug in the the C/S Module. Adjust the C/S Module controls to

center positions. Plug in the monitor to the computer. Get a Desktop

display with some text and icons. Use an insulated tool to adjust the

nub Intensity and Focus controls for maximum sharpness at 'normal'

viewing intensity. A magnifying glass is helpful to obtain max pixel

sharpness.

 

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014- Suddenly my GS monitor exhibits a serious case of display

shimmy which sometimes degenerates into jagged lines. How

can I fix this problem?

 

Side-to-side shimmy indicates that Horizontal lock is not stable.

 

A good fix try is to adjust Horizontal Hold (the "<- ->" knob/stub)

until the shimmy stops. This usually works unless 1- The HH control is

already at its extreme setting, 2- The HH control has 'dirty' or burn

spots at the position which would, ordinarily, be the correct setting,

3- The display stabilizes but ends up moved too far to the left or right

side of the screen.

 

If, adjusting Horizontal Hold does not fix the problem, you will

probably need to remove the case. For starters, this will let you squirt

some Control Cleaner into the HH control.

 

With the case removed, you will have access to some other controls

which may help solve the shimmy problem. Two are on the black High

Voltage module: one nub controls base Intensity; the other controls

Focus. There are also a couple small tab switches located near the back

edge of the main circuit board. One sets Horizontal position; the other

sets Vertical position.

 

If you reconnect the side controls and power cord, you will be able

to experiment with adjustments.

 

Working with monitor adjustments with the case removed requires

constant awareness of potential hazards. For example, you would connect

the AC power cord to the monitor _before_ plugging it into an AC socket.

The monitor needs to be on a plastic or wooden table with nearby clutter

removed. It may be easiest to support with the rear of the circuit board

resting on a thick magazine.

 

You should have one or two plastic TV technician tools. These are

rods with ends for turning slotted controls. (A whole set will cost a

few dollars at Radio Shack.) Such tools are handy for adjusting the

controls on the back of the HV module, for flipping the tab switches,

for tapping components you suspect may be loose, etc..

 

Note: If the HH control seems to have serious burn spots-- e.g. you

notice a crunchy feel when turning the knob-- you may have to get it

replaced in order to achieve a correct setting. Replacing such a control

is a job for someone with experience in working with monitors or TV's.

If you decide to do it, be sure to check safety and setup suggestions

listed earlier. De-solder the control, remove it, and take it to an

electronics parts seller to get a replacement.

 

Working with Horizontal Hold, the Horizontal tab switch, and the

Intensity control on the HV module, (and, maybe, the Focus control and

Vertical Size) you should be able to eliminate any shimmy and end up

with a properly sized and positioned display.

 

Note: On some monitors, you may have to trade-off Vertical Size in order

to get a stable display which retains good linearity.

 

Once the shimmy problem is cured and the display is the right size

and positioned correctly, work back and forth between the side controls

and Focus to get a sharp display.

 

======= End of Monitor Repair Mini-Manual =========

 

 

 

From: Michael Hickey

 

015- I need a new RGB monitor for my GS. Will the

Commodore Amiga 1084 monitor work?

 

I have good information that the AMIGA 1084s monitor will work with

the Apple IIgs. I have no information on the quality of the output, I've

seen some Amiga displays that look no better than your average colour

TV. Perhaps the local WAL-Mart will have a few in stock at a low price.

 

You will need to build your own DB9 to DB 15 cable.

 

1084s to IIgs

DB9 DB15

 

1 13

3 2

4 5

5 9

7 3

 

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From: Stefan Voss

 

016- What is the pinout for Commodore's 1084s monitor?

 

pin assignment of 1084S monitor:

 

pin # analog RGB signal

1 ground

2 ground

3 red

4 green

5 blue

6 not used

7 composite sync.

8 horizontal sync.

9 vertical sync.

 

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\ 5 4 3 2 1 /

\ /

\ 9 8 7 6 /

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I can't give any garantee!

 

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From: Rubywand

017- What is a "composite video monitor"?

 

A composite video monitor is a display which requires a composite

video signal such as that output by an Apple II computer. The signal is

called "composite" because it is a mix of Video, Horizontal Sync, and

Vertical Sync signals. A color composite video signal will, also,

include Color Burst. These signals are separated inside the monitor.

 

The cable for connecting such a monitor is a single wire surrounded

by insulation with an outer shield (usually braided copper) covered by

insulation. The inner wire carries the signal, the shield is at

'ground'. Often, each end of the cable has a standard RCA plug-- so; the

cable looks much like a normal audio hi-fi cable. (In fact, a decent

hi-fi cable will, often, work fine for connecting your Apple II to a

composite color monitor.)

 

The main differences between a hi-fi cable and one intended to

carry video signals are 1) the video cable usually has a better,

tighter shield; 2) the video cable is characterized for impedance

matching at, usually, 50 or 75 Ohms; and 3) the video cable exhibits

lower capacitance between the center lead and the shield.

 

You can connect your Apple II to a Monochrome or Color composite

video monitor.

 

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018- When I play old hires games on my GS the RGB monitor display

does not look as good as my old Amdek Color-1 connected to

the II+. What's wrong?

 

Most hires displays look better on a composite color monitor, such

as the Amdek Color-1, than they do on the GS's RGB monitor. The

difference is even more striking for double-hires displays. (King's

Quest and Air Heart look much better on a Color-1 connected to a IIc+

than on an RGB monitor connected to the GS.)

 

What's wrong is that the GS's display circuits do just a passable

job of translating hires and double-hires into RGB form.

 

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019- Does anybody know how to do the "Color Killer Mod"

on a //e?

 

It looks like you should be able to do a full-screen color-killer

on a IIe by using a general purpose NPN transistor (2N3904, 2N2222,

etc.) to shunt the Color Burst signal. The transistor's collector would

connect to the junction of R15 and R13; the emitter lead would go to

Ground. The transistor should be connected directly to the R15-R13

junction and ground.

 

The base lead would go through a 2k-3k Ohm resistor to an

annunciator output, such as An-3 at pin 12 on the 16-pin J-15 Game

connector. PEEKing the appropriate addresses should flip Color OFF and

ON.

 

The reason for qualifiers such as "looks like", etc. is that I have

not actually tried a mod like this on a IIe. Monitors are remarkably

sensitive to Color Burst. If the transistor does not do a good job of

shunting the signal, enough may get through to trigger Color-ON.

 

A more positve (but less easy) technique is to use a 74LS32 OR gate

to control flow of the 3.58MHz signal. The IC could be tack-soldered

onto U88 via its +5 and GND pins. U88 is the 74S02 which has the gate

which produces Color Burst.

 

Pin 12 of the 'S02 would be bent up and connected to the output of

an 'LS32 OR gate (e.g. pin 3). One of the OR gate's inputs (pin 2) would

go to Pin 12 of the 'S02 socket. The other (pin 1) would go to an

annunciator output.

 

Turning ON the annunciator forces the OR gate output to "1" and

eliminates Color Burst. Turning OFF the annunciator lets the OR gate

output follow the 3.58MHz signal and enables Color Burst.

 

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020- I connected my IIe to a color TV using a Radio Shack

"TV/Game Switch" but it doesn't work. How come?

 

A "TV/Game" switch is, usually, intended to switch RF (radio

frequency) signals. For example, in the "TV" position it connects the

TV's VHF antenna input to the VHF antenna (e.g. the long "rabbit

ears"). This way, you can watch TV.

 

In the "Game" position it connects the TV's VHF antenna input to a

game machine's or computer's CH 3 or CH 4 output. To see the computer's

display, you need to set the TV Channel selector to the channel being

output by the computer.

 

The reason your setup does not work is that the IIe does not output

an RF signal. (In fact, no Apple II has built-in circuitry for

outputting an RF signal.) The IIe outputs composite video. Composite

video is pure video information like the kind output by a VCR through

the standard 'Yellow' cable. It produces a better, sharper image than

video which is converted to RF and fed into a TV's antenna input.

 

If your TV has a "Video In" plug, that is where you want to plug in

the IIe's video output. An alternative is to plug the IIe output into a

VCR's "Video In" and let the VCR take care of interfacing to the TV.

 

Getting an "RF Converter" ("TV Converter", etc.) module is another

way to go. For about $30 Radio Shack sells a box which will convert an

Apple II's video signal to RF on CH3 or CH4.

 

One thing to consider when looking for ways to connect to a color

TV is that you could end up wasting time and money better spent on just

getting a standard composite color monitor (like the Amdek Color-1) at a

local Apple II swap meet.

 

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021- Can I use a color TV with my IIc+?

 

Yes. You can use one of the methods described above or you can use

the RF Modulator module especially designed for the IIc series.

 

The IIc RF module is formed to fit the IIc case and has a "CH3-CH4"

slide tab on the top. Once the module is plugged in and a cable run to

the TV's antenna inputs or to a TV/Game switch, you can get very nice,

colorful on-TV hires and double-hires displays.

 

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From: David Empson

 

022- I have a friend with an Apple IIc+ who wants to connect

an RGB monitor. What is the IIc+ video pin configuration?

 

First, I should correct a misconception: the video port on the back

of the IIc+ is _not_ an RGB port. It is a video expansion port, which

provides all of the internal video generation signals used by the

IIc/IIc+ which can be used to generate an alternative video output

signal.

 

The actual functions of the IIc video port are as follows:

 

1 TEXT Indicates text mode is active (spcl fn in DHR mode)

2 14M 14 MHz clock sigal

3 SYNC Horizontal and vertical sync

4 SEGB Vertical counter signal from IOU, or lo-res indication

5 1VSOUND Sound output (one volt peak-to-peak)

6 LDPS Video shift load enable

7 WNDW Active area display blanking

8 +12V +12 volts DC

9 PRAS RAM row address strobe

10 GR Graphics mode enable

11 SEROUT Serialized character generator output

12 NTSC Composite NTSC video output

13 GND Ground reference

14 VIDD7 Bit 7 of video shift latch (hires mode col shifting)

15 CREF Colour reference timing signal

 

These come from the IIc Technical Reference, both first and second

editions.

 

 

You cannot connect a monitor directly to the IIc video port (with

the possible exception of the the LCD display, or an NTSC monitor). To

produce RGB output (or anything else) from this port, you need an

external adaptor box.

 

This adaptor is not simple: it has to decode the colour information

from the NTSC video signal (or generate it by detecting the graphics

mode and monitoring bit patterns), generate appropriate sync signals,

etc.

 

I believe there is (or was) an RGB output adaptor for the IIc,

which should also work on the IIc+.

 

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From: James Stafford

 

023- Where can I buy a replacement RGB monitor for my GS?

 

Alltech Electronics sells RGB monitors that they specially set up

for the Apple II for arround $150.00 I believe. These monitors were

Attari monitors that they fixed to work on Aplle II's. Alltech also has

used Aplle RGB monitors. Quality Computers has monitors made by Magnavox

for the Apple II. The price of these RGB monitors is $300.00.

 

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From: David Empson

 

024- What kind of RGB monitors will work with a IIc and a

Laser 128?

 

I don't know about the Laser. The IIc doesn't have built-in RGB

output. Its video port provides several low-level timing signals which

allow RGB data to be decoded from the composite video signal (which is

also provided on the port), but this requires external hardware.

 

The "standard" IIc RGB adaptor (assuming there was one) would probably

have produced digital RGB output, the same as the Apple III and the

Apple IIe memory expansion cards with RGB output. With a digital RGB

monitor, standard digital logic levels (TTL) indicate whether a colour

(or colour weighting) is present or absent. One wire is required for

each bit of each primary colour.

 

The IIgs, on the other hand, produces an analog RGB signal - a voltage

on the Red, Green and Blue outputs represents the intensity of each

primary colour. Any number of shades of each colour can be supported, by

providing a finer resolution digital to analog converter within the

computer. The IIgs has 4-bit D-to-A for each primary colour. High-end

video cards on the Mac and PC (SVGA) use 8-bit D-to-A for each primary

colour.

 

Digital RGB monitors cannot be used with an Analog RGB signal (unless

comparators are used to generate a digital signal from the analog one).

 

Analog RGB monitors cannot normally be used with a Digital RGB signal,

but generating an analog signal is possible with a resistor network (an

example of this is given in the Apple III Owner's Guide). In some

cases, it may be possible to plug an Analog RGB monitor into a Digital

RGB output, but it won't produce the correct colours (when compared with

a Digital RGB monitor).

 

 

There are two common types of digital RGB monitor: one type will work

with the Apple III, Apple IIe (with RGB card), Apple IIc (with RGB

adaptor) and CGA on an IBM PC (different cables or adaptors are

required). This type has intensity and one bit each for red, green and

blue (16 colours in total).

 

The second type is usable with EGA. This has two bits each for red,

green and blue (64 colours in total). These monitors also have a higher

scan frequency than the first type, and cannot be used with an Apple II

(unless a card has been specially designed to use them).

 

 

Analog RGB monitors are mainly classified by the scan frequency and

resolution. The IIgs RGB monitor (A2M6014X) operates at similar

frequencies to television - around 15 kHz. Macintosh and VGA/SVGA RGB

monitors do not support such low scan rates, and typically work at about

30 kHz or higher. The Mac cannot use the IIgs RGB monitor, and the IIgs

cannot use Mac/VGA RGB monitors.

 

Some third-party multisync monitors will work on the Mac/VGA and IIgs,

but these are very rare now. Most multisyncs do not go as low as 15

kHz.

 

"15 kHz" and "30 kHz" refers to the horizontal scan frequency - Apple II

video output has a horizontal retrace roughly 15,000 times per second.

 

Vertical retrace is a different issue (it is much slower - usually 50 to

100 retraces per second), and most monitors are very flexible in the

supported vertical retrace rate, as far as I know.

 

This is also where "interlacing" comes in. Interlacing is a technique

which doubles the effective vertical resolution of the monitor, by

performing two vertical scans (fields) per frame, with a slight vertical

shift in the second field. The scan lines for the second field are

interleaved between the scan lines for the first field.

 

An interlaced display has more noticeable flicker than a non-interlaced

display with double the frame rate, because the phosphor is only lit

half as often.

 

For example, the Second Sight card will support a 400 line interlaced

mode with the IIgs RGB monitor. There will probably be noticeable

flicker in this mode (especially out of the corner of your eye).

 

This mode will have 60 fields (i.e. 30 frames) per second, whereas the

standard IIgs video output is non-interlaced with 60 frames per second

(but only 200 lines vertical resolution).

 

(I'm assuming 60 Hz mode - the IIgs also support 50 Hz mode, for use in

countries with 50 Hz mains supplies and TVs.)

 

Television also uses interlacing - with NTSC, there are 525 lines per

interlaced frame and 30 frames per second, with alternating lines being

scanned on each pass of the electron beam (262.5 lines per field, 60

fields per second).

 

PAL uses 625 lines per frame, usually at 50 frames per second (312.5

lines per field, 25 fields per second).

 

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From: Rubywand

 

025- Can I replace my GS RGB monitor with one from a PC?

 

Modern PC monitors have a Horizontal scan rate which is too high to

be compatible with the GS. Some users report success using some old PC

VGA monitors with a special adapter cable.

 

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From: Steve Jensen

 

I just tried a Sony CPD 1302 multisych monitor on a GS and it works

perfectly. Very crisp picture. I used a standard cable from a Mac II.

 

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From: Rubywand

 

026- What are the specs and pin-out for the GS RGB monitor?

 

Max Resolution: 640 Horizontal dots x 200 Vertical dots

(200 lines of 640 dots)

 

Dot Pitch: .37mm

 

CRT Size: 12"/ 11.5" viewable

 

Video Bandwidth: 6.5MHz (+/- 1.5DB)

 

 

Scanning Frequencies

 

60Hz model 50Hz model

 

Horizontal: 15.734kHz 15.696kHz

Vertical: 60Hz 50Hz

 

 

Pin Function

 

1 Red video ground

2 Red composite video

3 Composite sync

4 (not used)

5 Green composite video

6 Green video ground

7 (not used)

8 (not used)

9 Blue composite video

10 (not used)

11 (not used)

12 (not used)

13 Blue video ground

14 (not used)

15 (not used)

Shell Shield ground

 

 

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From: Mitchell Spector

 

The above specs show only maximum resolution when used with a plain

Apple IIgs. It has an interlaced mode which allows you to display

640x400, though it isn't going to be easy to look at for long periods of

time. You can see the interlaced mode if you have a VOC or Second Sight

card.

 

The viewable area on an Apple IIgs is probably a fair bit less than

12"/ 11.5" viewable when you take into account all the space reserved

by the border in all display modes. That probably makes it about 10"

viewable or so. If you hook up another video source (e.g. a

SuperNintendo) then you can use the entire 11.5", including what would

be the border area.

 

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From: Rubywand

 

027- Do I need to connect a monochrome monitor to my IIe to get

readable 80-column text?

 

Maybe not. Try turning down the "Color" control to get a B/W

display and adjusting Brightness and Contrast. This will, possibly, make

80-column text readable on your composite color monitor. Just how

readable will depend upon the particular monitor. On the popular Amdek

Color-1, readability is marginal at best. According to some user

reports, readability is decent on Apple's composite color monitor.

 

 

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From: Jim Krych (ab453@cleveland.Freenet.Edu)

 

028- Is there a high-quality replacement for RGB monitors?

 

Yes. It's called the "VideoTurtle." (What follows comes from a

Video Turtle advertisement.)

 

The VideoTurtle is a product that converts your RGB signal, known

as TV RGB-15.75KHz scan rate for NTSC, into S-Video! S-Video is an

enhanced form of TV with better clarity and resolution than the "TV" we

are all familiar with.

 

With your computer, the VideoTurtle, and an S-Video equipped TV,

you get equal or better display quality, than your old RGB monitor. Not

only that, you get a much bigger and eye-pleasing display, and a TV to

boot!

 

The VideoTurtle, from Turtle Enterprises, can be purchased for

$149.95 from one of it's authorized distributors, such as Tex Comp Ltd.

To order all 1-800-846-3474. For technical information on TV RGB systems

we haven't mentioned, or general technical help, call 1-626-967-3341.

Turtle Enterprises can be reached via email: videoturtle@hotmail.com

 

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From: Tony Cianfaglione

 

029- Can I use a GS RGB monitor with my IIc?

 

I use a IIc with a GS RGB monitor constantly through a Video 7

cable and it works fine. The 80 column text is crystal clear plus you

can make it 4 different colors by flipping switches on the Video 7. A

digital RGB displays 16 colors on a IIc but the GS RGB still displays 8.

 

 

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From: Rubywand

 

030- I connected a composite monitor to my GS at the standard "RCA

plug" output but I get a fuzzy dim display. The monitor worked

fine on my II+. What's the problem?

 

When a composite monitor is known to be okay, a fuzzy/dim display

usually indicates that the video output level is too low. (A too-bright,

whitish, faded look could indicate the output is too high.)

 

You can adjust video output on a II+ via the small on-mother knob

near the Game I/O socket. There does not seem to be any way to adjust

composite video output on the GS. If your monitor has a video input

level adjustment, try changing the setting.

 

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031- Ever since adding a SecondSight video board it seems like my

GS is always crashing. Is the SS board causing problems?

 

SecondSight adds some nice features; but, it is known to be a power

hog. Most likely, your system is crashing due to noise glitches on the

+5V and/or +12V power busses. The fix is to fatten power supply leads

and, probably, add on-motherboard +5V and +12V jumpers to a couple

Slots. Details are supplied in the POWER FAQs (csa2POWER.TXT).

 

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From: James D. Keim

 

032- My SecondSight board bombs every time I try to run Inwords or

PublishIt. What's wrong?

 

Inwords and PublishIt use the DHR display. The SecondSight cannot

emulate the DHR display and locks up the system.

 

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From: Eric Jacobs

 

033- Including the left and right borders, how many dots are

actually sent per line in 320 and 640 modes on the GS?

 

Including the left and right borders, plus the horizontal retrace,

the video sends out more than 320 or 640 "dots" before the screen begins

scanning the next line. Here's a quick summary of the Apple II video

that's been used throughout the whole series (assuming 60 Hz video

here). It's a slightly modified NTSC signal, though the differences are

small enough for most monitors to accomodate.

 

Everything in the Apple II is derived from a 14.31818 MHz master

clock. This runs both the video and the processor/memory subsystems. The

cycle time is therefore 69.8 ns. For 640-mode (or 80 cols, or

double-hires) the dots are sent out at simply this rate. In 320-mode (40

cols or single-hires) the dots are sent out at half that rate, 7.15909

MHz (one pixel every 139.6 ns). The NTSC standard calls for 227.5 cycles

of color reference (3.579545 MHz) per horizontal line, for a horizontal

scan rate of 15.734 KHz (3.579545/.2275). The Apple II rounds this up to

228 cycles of 3M, so the horizontal scan rate is 15.699 KHz

(3.579545/.228). This is well within the tolerance of most monitors. So

therefore in 320-mode 228*2 = 456 "dots". In 640-mode there are 912

"dots". I put dots in quotes because, obviously, only 320 or 640 of them

are actually seen as part of the screen.

 

When the GS is outputting a composite video signal, each horizontal

line must contain a horizontal sync pulse and color burst, and there

can't be a border during this time, or else the TV won't register a

sync. On the RGB, the GS puts the border color on. So, the answer to

your question is 456-320 or 136 pixels in 320-mode and 912-640 or 272

pixels in 640-mode. This includes both borders and the horizontal sync.

Of course, a good proportion of this time is not visible; this depends

on the overscan settings of the particular monitor.

 

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From: Eric Jacobs

 

034- I picked up a IIgs RGB monitor at a garage sale. The focus is

off and it took several minutes until the display got brighter

but it's still not very good. Are there any adjustments that can

be made?

 

The problem you describe is consistant with low B+ going to the

flyback transformer which results in low brightness level, poor focus,

and blooming when the brightness and/or screen level is turned up. More

than likely if this monitor has been sitting around for awhile, the

filter capacitors have gone to mush. Sometimes they can be revived by

leaving the monitor on for a long period of time <over 24hrs> but,

usually, they require replacement.