AFL Scott Ok... Welcome to AGR from Sunny, Southern California... Tonight, we have two AFL Scott very special programs on tap for you... First, with the help of AFL Marty, AFL Scott we're going to announce the Twilight time contest winners! Second, we're going AFL Scott to fill you in on some of the great happenings here at Applefest! :) AFL Scott First, however, let's get started with a Hearty Congratulations to the AFL Scott entrants to the Twilight Time contest! You all did a wonderful job with your AFL Scott frames pictures and I bet that every one is really anxious to find out just AFL Scott who won! I know I am.. so... without AFL Scott further delay, I'm going to turn the floor over to AFL Marty who is going to AFL Scott tease you for a while, then he'll announce the winners in both categories! AFL Scott Take it away, Mr. Knight! :) AFL Marty The Apple II Productivity Forum, Apple II Art & Graphics Forum, and Apple II AFL Marty Utilities and Desk Accessories Forum are pleased to announce the winners of AFL Marty the Twilight Time contest which took place during the month of November. AFL Marty The winner in the Programming Division is Daniel Zimmerman (Surak TFF) for AFL Marty the entry "Colorstrobe Blanker." Daniel wins 5 Free Hours PLUS his choice of AFL Marty any of the following Byte Works products: ORCA/C, ORCA/M, ORCA/Pascal, Learn AFL Marty to Program Pascal, Learn to Program C, Design Master, ORCA/Disassembler, AFL Marty Utility Pack #1, Merlin to ORCA, or Sublib Source. Congratulations Dan! AFL Marty SteveB Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!! :) Mac Hater ()()() BCS Frank Congratulations, Daniel ,Way to Go!!!!! AFC Tosh Yeah! Shekar 1 Goodie Dan! AFL FrankD Yeahhhhh... Daniel! AFC JohnC {S APPLAUSE} Shekar 1 Now... AFL Marty NExt... MauriceG1 Congrats Daniel! !! AFL Marty The winner in the Graphics Division is Jerry Fellows (JerryF15) for the entry AFL Marty "Infinitum Frames." Jerry wins 5 Free Hours PLUS a free copy of Platinum AFL Marty Paint PLUS Color+ and Supergraphix PLUS his choice of any three of the AFL Marty following DAR System International games: Mines of Moria, Mines of Moria II, AFL Marty Pits of Doom, Trilogy, Gem of Zephyr, Sword of Altair, and Quest for Varsar. AFL Marty Congratulations Jerry! AFL Marty SteveB Congrats!!!!!! :) AFC Tosh Allright! AFC DaveS Congrats Surak and Jerry! :) MauriceG1 Way to go Jerry! Shekar 1 Congrats Jerry AFC JohnC {S APPLAUSE] Surak TFF Congrats, Jerry!! DYA Jim1 Congradulations to all! BCS Frank Hey, Jerry, Twilight Forever!!!! AFL Marty A very special thanks to Beagle Bros, The Byte Works, DAR Systems AFL Marty International, and El Kassir Software for generously supplying prizes for AFL Marty this contest. AFL Marty AFL Scott Whoah!!!! What Booottttyyyy!!:) AFL FrankD :0 RTAFT Great Prizes!!! AFL Marty I'd like the winners in each division to please send me (via EMail)... AFC DaveS Early Holiday Bonanza! AFL JoyceM Great entries and great winners :) Shekar 1 Hm... AFL Marty their names and addresses so that we can get the prizes sent out AFL Marty as soon as possible. SteveB DAR Shekar 1 in your opinion Marty, what would be runner up? SteveB :) Shekar 1 :) AFC DaveS In case Surak or Jerry are unable to complete their reign as Twilight AFL Marty We didn't jusge for runners up. Only for the winner. AFC DaveS winners...:) :) AFL Marty That's all I have Scott. AFL Marty GA AFL Scott Night, Steve!:) AFC DaveS 'Night Steve! Thanks for dropping by! :) AFC DaveS You'll miss the Applefest stuff :) AFL Scott Thanks, Marty! Ok... Now, were going to start talking about AppleFest/LA..... AFL Scott First, however, I'm going to let you all know that I'm not going to be answer AFL Scott ing instant messages during the conference, so please, don't send any.. AFL Scott Second, the conference, once we finish the opening remarks is going to be AFL Scott held under strict protocol, so please, limit yourself to one question so every AFL Scott body can participate.... AFL Scott Now, on with Applefest! AFL FrankD Frank is all warmed up, Scott. :) We just gave him an hour-long warmup for your main event. :) AFL Scott Today, Apple Computer took the first step in bringing the biggest program to AFL Scott hit the Apple II in a long time to market. Apple Computer is showing AFL Scott HyperCard IIGS at AppleFest. AFL Scott HyperCard seemed to generate alot of excitement at the Apple booths... Yes, AFL Scott booths...Apple has two at this AppleFest... one in the middle with all the AFL Scott computers (including Macs) and one in the back for demostrations and short AFL Scott seminars... AFL Scott Another big announcememt came from Applied Engineering who were showing a AFL Scott prototype Fax modem... The FAX modem can't send graphics right now, but AFL Scott is going to be when the final is out.... Another Big announcement and show AFL Scott item came from Seven Hills who are showing SuperConvert from Jason Harper! AFL Scott It's pretty nice, very efficient and Jason is really having a blast showing it AFL Scott to everyone! AFL Scott Another "new" product was announced by New Concepts.... I'm going to blow my AFL Scott own horn for a second.. Allison was shown to a very enthusiastic crowd! People AFL Scott were really impressed... AFL Scott Now, what I'd like to do is turn this over to BCS Frank, so he can give you AFL Scott a different perspective on the show, and then we'll get to all your questions.. AFL Scott You ready to go Frank ? :) BCS Frank -... sure BCS Frank what I saw was a lot of excitement BCS Frank in the show, a feeling that Apple is moving, and so BCS Frank are a lot of other vendors. BCS Frank One sign was the Apple II Guide, now being handed out by Apple, BCS Frank and in the mail to user groups and dealers. AFL Scott One thing Ted told me to say... AFL Scott rather, to add... I had a lot of people ask me if Allison was going to be AFL Scott available for the Mac and/or IBM.. I had a nice answer.. NO. :) AFL Scott Now, on with the questions! :) AFL Scott First up is Teacher pk... GA, Paul! :) Teacher pk Okay thanks. Teacher pk Do you think that the release of Hypercard was a real good marketing idea.. Teacher pk for the IIGS? I don't see how it's going to excite people since HyperStudio.. Teacher pk has been available for quite some time? AFL Scott I really think so. I think that any product that generated the excitment that BCS Frank ... got a little bit disconnected there. AFL Scott HyperCardGS generated is a Good thing. Now, however, I feel that both Hyper AFL Scott media products for the GS can co-exist as both really fill two needs. The AFL Scott First need is that of the younger members of the GS community. Most in that AFL Scott Age group don't really have expertise to "program". So, HyperStudio allows the AFL Scott them to get the most bang. However, for those who have dabbled in basic (a AFL Scott generally older crowd, it's a good thing that HyperCard is out... They can AFL Scott do their thing). GuS Grafix I'm an old hand a BASIC and I find Hypercard (Mac) a real pain to program for.. GuS Grafix I personally prefer to use a REAL programming language like BASIC... GuS Grafix for some stuff and HyperStudio for most of my graphics-based stuff... GA GuS Grafix (how "REAL" Basic is is up for debate, I know :) Mac Hater any 3200 paint programs shown? how crowded was the show? Anyone check out Mac Hater what the heck MICROSOFT was doing @ Afest? (interesting to note that last Mac Hater year this same chat had over 40 people...:( ga AFL Scott Well, Looks like tommorow is Emerald Visions day... Ron was still getting AFL Scott some kinks out, but it's looking promising. The floor was a zoo, Mac Hater... AFL Scott There were LOTS of people roaming until around 4 PM when things seemed to AFL Scott calm down somewhat... I know, I spent most of my time standing, talking to AFL Scott people about my release... When I got away, I saw that nearly every booth was AFL Scott crowed... Except those with Macs... :) AFL Scott I didn't get a chance to look at Microsoft, though.... how about you, Frank? BCS Frank Nope, missed quite a few of the booths... BCS Frank But tomorrow is Emerald Vision day for me, too. :) AFL Scott Alrighty! :) MauriceG1 Frank, were you thru with your comments before you were rudely "dumped"? AFL Scott Frank...I'm sorry.. please, continue! ;) Forgive me, please! ;) BCS Frank Well, there are lots of things that I saw... BCS Frank no problem.... my comments are far from organized.... BCS Frank I' BCS Frank m just glad to see good times coming to the Apple II gs. BCS Frank I agree on the HyperMedia BCS Frank HC and HS are each going to find their place together. BCS Frank I did find out about reading MAC stacks into BCS Frank HC-gs BCS Frank The HC-gs disk set includes a "Stack mover" set BCS Frank running on both the MAC and GS to transfer BCS Frank almost everythin in stacks except the BCS Frank ecmds, which need a little BCS Frank manual treatment. BCS Frank that's x-cmds. AFL Scott Great times!!!! It's happening!:) BCS Frank .... I have a special guest with me here tonight..... AFL Scott Great!!!:) BCS Frank Straight from the wilds of AFest.... BCS Frank It's Peter Kimton!!! BCS Frank say hello, Pette... AFL Scott Yo! Peter!:) BCS Frank Howdy, all! BCS Frank P: Ugh...I just ran over Frank... not pretty... AFL Scott Peter, what are your observations of the show so far? BCS Frank I am really surprised by the turnout! BCS Frank I couldn't get enough seats for my seminar! AFL Scott That's great! I think... Shekar 1 AFest LA: The Era of Good Feelings revisited... AFL Scott I think now, we should get to some questions.... and we'll get back to Peter in AFL Scott moment... I don't want to keep these people waiting.. ;) AFL Scott Shekar, you're turn in the sun! :) Shekar 1 Thanks... Shekar 1 Is the HyperCard GS showed fast? Is it practical for regular programming?...and one other question... Shekar 1 Does HCGS have a "laiden" programming language (ie; HyperTalk Scripting on the Mac)? AFL Scott Your, rather... (twice!) AFL Scott HyperTalk is an integral part of HyperCardGS. And yes, it's just like the AFL Scott Mac version, except the IIGS version is color!:) AFL Scott ---FULL Color!---- Shekar 1 Is this essentially the same as them ac HTalk? Shekar 1 ac=as BCS Frank