Subject: Re: Inventor From: Chad Choi Lin Date: Sun, Dec 13, 1998 03Ç12(H Message-id: <3673932A.74EF@nyetcom.com> mairsil@my-dejanews.com wrote: > In article , > nobody@wavetech.net (Greg Buchner) wrote: > > In article <19981211224448.06165.00001317@ng43.aol.com>, > > supertimer@aol.com (Supertimer) wrote: > > > > >I have no doubt that without Jobs, Apple Computers would > > >ever have came to be. However, it is a fact that Jobs > > >contributed NOTHING to the hardware itself. > > > > Actually, I do believe that Jobs was responsible for the Apple II > > having a case...Wozniak very likely at the time would have been > > happy continuing to sell just the motherboard. Jobs thought they > > should sell something that looked "professional". > > > > >By the way, apparently Jobs and Woz are no longer > > >on speaking terms. Jobs witheld profits from initial > > >Apple I sales and Woz found out this much later on. > > > > I never heard this...I do know that Jobs told Wozniak that Jobs > > had received less money from an Atari job that Jobs brought > > Wozniak in on...Wozniak wasn't concerned with the money, he was > > just upset about Jobs lying to him. > > Wasn't there something on PBS about this? I also seem to recall hearing that > they're making a made-for-TV movie about this. > > Ralph Glatt Yes, it was a PBS documentary on the birth and evolution of the home computer industry entitled "Triumph of The Nerds." However, the Apple II and the Woz-Jobs partnership that started the Apple Computer company are treated as little more than footnotes in the history of personal computing, plus there's this inexplicable narrator by the name of "Cringely" (reminds me of Guy L. Steele Jr.'s "Crunchly" cartoons featured in The New Hacker's Dictionary) in the program. As an alternative, I highly recommend the book "Hackers" by Steven Levy, which truly does the Apple II justice in the way that it describes the creative energy of the Homebrew Computer Club (which Steve Wozniak belonged to and got a great deal of technical support from), the engineering wizardry of The Woz himself, and the marketting savvy of Steve Jobs (who deserves credit for making Apple Computer, Inc., a reality). It also gives us an early glimpse of the sort of person Bill Gates was and would become, via the story of Tiny BASIC. Peace, Love, and Apple II Forever! Chad Choi Lin chadlin@nyetcom.com *************************************** WARNING: the above address is not valid (I hate spam, and spambots are always harvesting Usenet posts for addresses) ***************************************