I've asked Michael Haardt, author of cpmtools, to incorporate some code changes that would allow his package to work on apple II cpm images (both in dos and prodos order). This package allows one to manipulate cpm disk images - extract, copy, delete, etc, etc from a unix command line. The latest version of cpmtools (1.6) can now handle apple II cpm images. The very latest cpmtools can be downloaded from http://www.moria.de/michael/cpmtools With cpmtools, I've been able to create Apple II images with the generic software obtained from http://deltasoft.fife.wa.us/cpm/ and from the oakdale CP/M archives. These images I've been able to download to an Apple II via ADT without any problems. I feel that they would be of use to Apple II CP/M users. Raoul Golan raoul@triode.net.au