The file archive: MactoA2Archivers.image.sit.hqx and its and info file as standard texis now available for anonymous public access and downloads from; ftp://apple.cabi.net/pub/applegs/Mac.to.A2.STUFF/ or http://apple.cabi.net/pub/applegs/Mac.to.A2.STUFF/ also available from the apple.cabi.net - applegs mirror ftp site: ftp://ftp.tarnover.dyndns.org/Mac.to.A2.STUFF/ I've done a TEXT download of the archive: MactoA2Archivers.image.sit.hqx using my Mac with the program utility Fetch, set to automatic and then did a drag & drop of it over the Stuffit Expander program to derive a Disk Copy 4.2 disk image file from it. I then launched Disk Copy and told it to make a 3.5 disk copy from the Disk Copy image file and it did as a bootable ProDOS 3.5 800k disk. I then took that disk to my IIgs and my Apple IIe and was able to boot it just fine to access the programs. I've uploaded the archive and this posted portion of the information file as a standard original text file with it to our Apple2 ftp and http archive site, 'Ground'. I'm fairly sure that Steve Nelson, the maintainer of the Ground site will soon make the archive and text file for it available for public access and download. I've also uploaded both the archive and INFO text file for it to: ftp://trenco.myrias.com//incoming/ for the maintainer of this Apple 2 ftp and http site to do with it as he sees fit. Read on folks and see my added comments noted with -> *** :) below. Today (6/10/99) - SuperTimer made the following CSA2 post request again and I've taken his request and acted on it, per his instructions convering the following post - with this upload to our Apple II ftp sites. _____________________________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Re: Help with Sys 5 for IIGS Path: lobby!newstf02.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: supertimer@aol.com (Supertimer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Lines: 40 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder07.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 10 Jun 1999 10:42:04 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19990610064204.12431.00000009@ng-bd1.aol.com> "David Kachel" wrote: >That's very kind of you and if I cannot find it elsewhere I will certainly >take advantage of your offer, but surely there must be SOMEWHERE on the >internet where these files can be downloaded in a format that is not nearly >impossible to unpack. Yes, on America Online's Apple II Forum. There is a disk containing ShrinkIt!, ShrinkIt! GS, GSCII+, and binscii that's stored under the "Mac to Apple II" button on the home page of the forum. It is a Mac DiskCopy disk image. The catch: this forum can only be accessed via AOL. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** :) Consider it done Supertimer and all others needing it. The instruction file follows - inserted below concerning it all also: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To transfer a file from a Macintosh (tm) to your Apple IIgs computer, first, download the file that you want on your Macintosh. If you are running System 7.0 or later on your Macintosh, you can use the "PC Exchange" extension on your Mac system software to read from or write directly to 3.5 inch, 800k ProDOS formatted diskettes. (PC Exchange comes with Mac System Software 7.5 and later, but if you have System Software 7.0, it will have to be obtained separately. Call 1-800-CALL-APPL for more information on PC Exchange). Or, if you have System Software 6.0 or later on your IIGS, you can use the Mac HFS File System Translator that comes with your IIGS system software to read from and write directly to 3.5 inch 800k Macintosh formatted diskettes. (If you don't have the Mac HFS File System Translator installed on your machine, you can use the Installer program on the System Software disk to add it to your setup.) Apple IIgs system 6.O.1 is available in the Apple Inc forum here online. So, it is a relatively simple matter to download Apple II files on your Macintosh and then copy them to a diskette that can be read on your IIGS. But once you get the files to a ProDOS formatted diskette, you may encounter other problems depending upon the intended file type of the file, since Apple II file types are not preserved when they are transferred from platform to platform. The Apple II files in our libraries come in different varieties: 1. Some of the files in our libraries are plain text files (which can be tranferred and read from any kind of computer so long as you have a text file reader.) You shouldn't have any trouble utilizing these files after transfer since the default file type on the IIGS is generally a text file. 2. Some of the files in our libraries are packed with a compression utility called "ShrinkIt" (this compression program is similar to Stuffit on the Mac). Do you have ShrinkIt on your IIGS already? (Or is this something you need to download?) It doesn't matter if the file type changes on files packed with ShrinkIt, since the ShrinkIt program can extract a ShrinkIt packed archive even if the file type is incorrect. 3. Some of the files in our libraries are uploaded as straight programs (SYS, S16, BAS, or BIN file types) with no compression. If you try to download files of this type on your Mac, you'll have to change the file type of the file on your IIGS in order to get the program to work properly. Do you have a file type changer program on your IIGS already? For more information about what to do with your file after you have it ready for transfer see the next document in this collection. --------------------end of instruction file, post request content follows--------------------- The problem. PC users can't download it without messing up the Mac info! Yes, I have tried to download it and email it to a Mac user. The Mac user said he could not unpack it. I used the IIGS program "Clone," to extract the DiskCopy image and it tested fine, but it seems once downloaded to a PC, Macs won't touch it. What is required is for a *MAC* user to download it through the Mac version of AOL and then BinHex encode it before uploading it to an Apple II FTP site. This will once and for all solve the chicken and the egg problem. If only a Mac using AOL user would be willing to do the grunt work. The AOL Apple II Forum can be reached with this keyword: aol://4344:1264.a2main.10029531.514525857 Paste it into the keyword dialog box (click on the Keyword button next to the URL bar in AOL 4 or under the GoTo menu in AOL 3 and before) and then click to go. A couple of months ago, Charles Turley tried to upload a similar image, but it was not BinHex encoded so Mac users can't download it properly. If a Mac AOL user would do the transfer, please BinHex encode it first. _____________________________________________________________________________________________ *** :) Here are the original docs for this archive noted below, with it's contents and instructions for its use. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: ShrinkIt: DiskCopy Image Author: Various (Andy Nicholas and others) File: SHRINKIT.image (838843 bytes) Estimated Download Time (28800 baud): < 7 minutes Equipment: Macintosh and Apple IIGS, Apple IIe or Apple IIc with a 3.5 inch drive Needs: Apple's DiskCopy 4.2 to extract the disk image NOTE: DiskCopy 4.2 for the Macintosh is needed to extract this file. DiskCopy may be downloaded in Apple Computer's software library. This file is a DiskCopy disk image of an 800k bootable ProDOS diskette containing the following files: PRODOS - the operating system SHRINKIT.SYSTEM - this file launches ShrinkIt for ProDOS 8 SHRINKIT - version 3.4 of ShrinkIt for ProDOS 8 BASIC.SYSTEM - the Applesoft BASIC interpreter for ProDOS GSHK - GS-ShrinkIt 1.1 (for the Apple IIGS) TYPECHANGER - a file type changing program (in Applesoft BASIC) by Jim Mensch System requirements: GSHK - Apple IIGS with 768k total memory FREE SHRINKIT - Apple IIe enhanced, IIc, IIc+, or IIGS --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** :)FINAL comments with the upload of 6/10/99 follows...Well, I do hope that this Mac bin.hex archive will take care of these requested needs. Cheers, Tom Charles T. 'Dr. Tom' Turley Emails; Cturley2@aol.com cturley@grin.net