Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Path: news1.icaen!news.uiowa.edu!news.physics.uiowa.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!express.ior.com!cnn.isc-br.com!nwfocus.wa.com!techall!norman.dodge From: norman.dodge@techall.wa.com Subject: GENIE & THE LAMP 1/12 for Message-ID: <9701092347.0XFA300@techall.wa.com> Organization: TechAlliance X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Distribution: world Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 23:47:33 -0700 Lines: 163 Hello News! >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Version 2.2 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Begin part 1/12 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Begin file almp9701 >>>>>>>>>> |||||| |||||| || || |||||| |||||| || || ||| || || || || ||| |||| |||||| || |||| Your || || || || ||| || || |||||| |||||| || || |||||| |||||| GenieLamp Computing || |||||| || || |||||| RoundTable || || || ||| ||| || || || |||||| |||||||| |||||| RESOURCE! || || || || || || || ||||| || || || || || ~ WELCOME TO GENIELAMP APPLE II! ~ """""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ~ THE TREASURE HUNT: It's Been Educational ~ ~ PROFILES: Meet Your New Editor ~ ~ HOT NEWS, HOT FILES, HOT MESSAGES ~ \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\//////////////////////////////////// GenieLamp Apple II ~ A T/TalkNET Publication ~ Vol.5, Issue 57 """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """ Publisher.................................................John F. Peters Editor...................................................Ryan M. Suenaga \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\//////////////////////////// //////// ~ GenieLamp IBM ~ GenieLamp ST ~ GenieLamp PowerPC ~ ~ GenieLamp A2Pro ~ GenieLamp Macintosh ~ GenieLamp TX2 ~ ~ GenieLamp Windows ~ GenieLamp A2 ~ LiveWire (ASCII) ~ ~ Member Of The Digital Publishing Association ~ GE Mail: GENIELAMP Internet: genielamp@genie.com ////////////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ >>> WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE APPLE II ROUNDTABLE? <<< """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" FROM MY DESKTOP ......... [FRM] FROM MY MAILBOX ......... [MAI] Notes From The Editor. Letters To The Editor. HEY MISTER POSTMAN ...... [HEY] THE TREASURE HUNT ....... [HUN] Is That A Letter For Me? It's Been Educational. PROFILES ................ [PRO] LOG OFF ................. [LOG] Your GenieLamp Editor GenieLamp Information [IDX]""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """ READING GENIELAMP GenieLamp has incorporated a unique indexing system """"""""""""""""" to help make reading the magazine easier. To utilize this system, load GenieLamp into any ASCII word processor or text editor. In the index you will find the following example: HUMOR ONLINE ............ [HUM] Genie Fun & Games. To read this article, set your find or search command to [HUM]. If you want to scan all of the articles, search for [EOA]. [EOF] will take you to the last page, whereas [IDX] will bring you back to the index. MESSAGE INFO To make it easy for you to respond to messages reprinted """""""""""" here in GenieLamp, you will find all the information you need immediately following the message. For example: (SMITH, CAT6, TOP1, MSG:58/M475) _____________| _____|__ _|___ |____ |_____________ |Name of sender CATegory TOPic Msg.# Page number| In this example, to respond to Smith's message, log on to page 475 enter the bulletin board and set CAT 6. Enter your REPly in TOPic 1. A message number that is surrounded by brackets indicates that this message is a "target" message and is referring to a "chain" of two or more messages that are following the same topic. For example: {58}. ABOUT Genie Genie has pricing plans to fit almost any budget. Genie's """"""""""" services include email, software downloads, bulletin boards, chat lines, and an Internet gateway included at a non-prime time connect rate of $2.75. Some pricing plans include uncharged online connect time. As always, prices are subject to change without notice. To sign up for Genie, call (with modem) 1-800-638-8369 in the USA or 1-800-387-8330 in Canada. Upon connection wait for the U#= prompt. Type: JOINGENIE and hit RETURN. The system will then prompt you for your information. Need more information? Call Genie's customer service line (voice) at 1-800-638-9636. GET GENIELAMP ON THE NET! Now you can get your GenieLamp issues from """"""""""""""""""""""""" the Internet. If you use a web browser, connect to "gopher://gopher.genie.com/11/magazines". When using a gopher program, connect to "gopher.genie.com" and then choose item 7 (Magazines and Newsletters from Genie's RoundTables). *** GET INTO THE LAMP! *** """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """ ///////////////////////////////////////// Genie_QWIK_QUOTE ///// / "Maybe when life settles down things'll be different again." / / / / "In my 12-year-old daughter's most sarcastic voice: / / 'Yeah, right!'" / ///////////////////////////////// R.SUENAGA1 & D.WALLIS2 ///// [EOA] [FRM]////////////////////////////// FROM MY DESKTOP / ///////////////////////////////// Notes From The Editor """"""""""""""""""""" by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W. [A2LAMP] >>> GOODBYE AND HELLO <<< """"""""""""""""" I often wonder what it was like for Royce Clayton to start at shortstop for the St. Louis Cardinals instead of Ozzie Smith, or how Steve Young felt when he took the reins of the San Francisco 49ers from Joe Montana. In any case, with this issue, I take the torch from an all-time great as well: Doug Cuff has stepped down as the editor of _GenieLamp A2_. Doug is now the former editor of three Apple II publications, _A2-Central_, _II Alive_, and _GenieLamp A2_. Like other all-time greats, he deserves a standing ovation. I cannot express just how much Doug's writing means to me. You see, I live in Hawai'i, separated from the rest of the computing world by a body of water in reality, and an ocean of misunderstanding in philosophy, and sometimes it's awfully lonely out here. The few Apple II publications that are still publishing remain a source of both interest and inspiration. And nothing in the Apple II world has ever been as much like clockwork as Doug Cuff's GenieLamp A2, coming out on the first of each month with only rare exception. Doug hasn't left GenieLamp; he's still here as a contributing writer. Enjoy your new role, Doug. You've earned my admiration, gratitude, and respect, as well as that of many others. Because of your work, I will always remember, "On a clear day, you can still see forever." >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: End part 1/12 crc: fec2 >>>>>>>>>> * 2qwk! 2.03 * The first full-featured QWK reader for the Apple. Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Path: news1.icaen!news.uiowa.edu!news.physics.uiowa.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!express.ior.com!cnn.isc-br.com!nwfocus.wa.com!techall!norman.dodge From: norman.dodge@techall.wa.com Subject: GENIE & LAMP 2/12 Message-ID: <9701092347.0XFAI00@techall.wa.com> Organization: TechAlliance X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Distribution: world Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 23:47:34 -0700 Lines: 161 >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Version 2.2 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Begin part 2/12 >>>>>>>>>> Like Clayton and Young, who went on to quickly help their teams to championships, I intend to continue GenieLamp's winning tradition. This is not to say that my feet are big enough to fill Doug's shoes, just that I will give all I can to maintain his level of excellence. It's a tough job, and it's mine now. Welcome to a new beginning. [*][*][*] In one of the first interviews I did for the _Talking II_ series in Steve Cavanaugh's publication, _The Apple Blossom_, I chided Eric Shepherd (a.k.a. Sheppy, the Logicware guy behind _Wolfenstein 3D_ for the IIgs) about the number of email addresses he had (I believe at the time it was four). Now, in a twist that only a fatalist could fully appreciate, I find myself in a quandary due to an overabundance of email addresses. For reasons not totally understood (at least, I don't understand it), instead of transferring the EDITOR.A2 account to me, Genie chose to open up a new account for the editor of this periodical. Henceforth, mail meant for the editor of _GenieLamp A2_ ought to be sent to A2LAMP (a2lamp@genie.com for those of you who do mail from other services). Mail sent to the older EDITOR.A2 address still ought to be received, although how long that will be true is unknown at this point. Those of you who want to contact Doug Cuff, the past editor of _GenieLamp A2_, will want to send email to D.CUFF. Those of you who want to contact me personally ought to really send mail to my rsuenaga@kestrok.com email address; failing that, R.SUENAGA1 or A2LAMP or, I guess, EDITOR.A2 will work as well. If you're not confused enough yet, you also have the option of reaching me at rsuenaga@delphi.com, but my rsuenaga@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu account is now officially closed. And if you want to reach me during the work day, you can even try ryan.suenaga@kp.org. I have just two words for anyone who believes computers simplify our lives: They lied. [*][*][*] Preparing for this first issue was tough enough without my considering how I'd introduce myself to all of you. I tried a few times to write a paragraph or two about myself (and my Apple IIs), but I wasn't able to come up with anything that didn't read as corny, flakey, or just plain bizarre. So, instead, I turned to one of the Apple II world's most infamous writers, Tim Kellers, with an unusual request: interview me. I guess I _could_ have tried to interview myself, ala Guy Kawasaki a few months back, but Guy's attempt at this unusual format was delivered as he was ending his stint as a regular _MacWorld_ columnist. I decided that as an _incoming_ rather than _outgoing_ editor, it might be best to introduce as little controversy as possible, which brings up the question of why Tim Kellers was chosen as the author. Hey, what can I say? He volunteered. [*][*][*] Finally, a columns update: The File Bandwagon will reappear next month, once I get my feet back under me. Humor Online is also on a brief hiatus; the holidays late in the year apparently bring much joy, but less humor. And, Peter Brickell's still out there in the real world, so The Real World Apple continues its hiatus. -- Ryan Genie Mail: A2LAMP Internet: a2lamp@genie.com __________________________________________________________ | | | REPRINTING GENIELAMP | | | | If you want to reprint any part of GenieLamp, or | | post it to a bulletin board, please see the very end | | of this file for instructions and limitations. | |__________________________________________________________| ASCII ART BEGINS _____ _ _ ___ ___ / ____| (_) | | / _ \|__ \ | | __ ___ _ __ _ ___| | __ _ _ __ ___ _ __ | |_| | ) | | | |_ |/ _ \ '_ \| |/ _ \ | / _` | '_ ` _ \| '_ \ | _ | / / | |__| | __/ | | | | __/ |___| (_| | | | | | | |_) | | | | |/ /_ \_____|\___|_| |_|_|\___|______\__,_|_| |_| |_| .__/ |_| |_|____| | | |_| ASCII ART ENDS [EOA] [MAI]////////////////////////////// FROM MY MAILBOX / ///////////////////////////////// Letters To The Editor """"""""""""""""""""" BILL SHUFF AND II ALIVE I was reading the latest GEnie A2 Lamp and was """"""""""""""""""""""" happy to see the postings that tell about my ill-fated article for "II Alive" magazine. I was both angry and very upset when my magazine arrived and I saw what happened to my instructions. I would be happy to send anyone who is interested in making a TWGS cable, a set of instructions that they can use. I will E-mail the instructions to anyone who requests them. My E-mail address is bill2060@cris.com. If someone wants a ZIP cable and does not care to make one themselves, I would suggest they contact Doug Pendleton. He has a supply of my cables. I would even be willing to convert a Zip cable obtained from him, into a TWGS cable for a very modest charge. Bill Shuff bill2060@cris.com [EOA] [HEY]////////////////////////////// HEY MISTER POSTMAN / ///////////////////////////////// Is That A Letter For Me? """""""""""""""""""""""" by Ryan Suenaga [A2LAMP] o BULLETIN BOARD HOT SPOTS o A2 POT-POURRI o HOT TOPICS >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: End part 2/12 crc: 22e3 >>>>>>>>>> * 2qwk! 2.03 * The first full-featured QWK reader for the Apple. Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Path: news1.icaen!news.uiowa.edu!news.physics.uiowa.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!express.ior.com!cnn.isc-br.com!nwfocus.wa.com!techall!norman.dodge From: norman.dodge@techall.wa.com Subject: GENIE & LAMP 3/12 Message-ID: <9701092347.0XFAT00@techall.wa.com> Organization: TechAlliance X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Distribution: world Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 23:47:34 -0700 Lines: 156 >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Version 2.2 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Begin part 3/12 >>>>>>>>>> o WHAT'S NEW o THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE o MESSAGE SPOTLIGHT >>> BULLETIN BOARD HOT SPOTS <<< """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" [*] CAT 3, TOP 3 ....... Passing the torch [*] CAT 5, TOP 14 ....... Fast Eddie beats Gus to the starting line [*] CAT 8, TOP 18 ....... More Postscript and PublishIt! [*] CAT 35, TOP 18 ....... Juiced's Taubert interview [*] CAT 35, TOP 30 ....... The future of A2 [*] CAT 42, TOP 15 ....... Spectrum 2.1 growing pains >>> A2 POT-POURRI <<< """"""""""""""""""""" TALK IS CHEAP FOR A LITTLE WHILE MORE I got this in a mailing from Don """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Elton: >Believe it or not, there are still a limited number of copies of >Talk is Cheap v 4.02 available complete with an 8.5 x 11 format >100+ page printed manual. I'm selling off this final stock for >$15/copy in 3.5" disk format. If you want to order then send a >check to: >Don Elton >1029 Flat Chimney Loop >Columbia, SC 29209-1989 i.This is a good deal for anyone wanting a simple, easy-to-use Comm program or for someone you know who has an Apple // and would like to get online at low cost. I found the scripting to be a lotta fun and something that even a beginner can handle. Also does X & YMODEM file transfers, but not Zmodem. Allows for many online macros, easing navigation and automated logons for up to 26 services or BBBs; also built-in text editor and utilities. - Joachim (J.NELSON56, CAT10, TOP3, MSG:296/M645;1) GRAPHIC THOUGHTS ABOUT THE WEB An idea just occured to me: """""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Why must we absolutly, cannot live without, a graphical web browser for the Apple IIgs? Couldn't we use Copilot scripting to treat the internet as (a) seperate roundtable(s)? A script could be used to: "find & replace" the message dividers for the Copilot editor. "find & replace" the URLs for the Copilot scripts. "find & replace" the HTML tags for Copilot "special actions". "find & replace" the LYNX links for Copilot "special action scripts". Spectrum's "filters" could also be brought into use. A Spectrum Xcmd could be used in conjunction with a HMTL translator to make Graphical Web pages viewable (and maybe functionable?) while offline. I'm not all that sure how Copilot functions, but maybe the whole operation could be processed while offline in a seperate function. Surf the 'web? Naw, I'd rather cast-net, gig flounder, and beach comb. ___(2___ "The Un-Dead Apple" / , _`' _\ Mike Brouillette / M.BROUILLET1@genie.com \)|(@)m(_, Via: Spectrum v2.0 / CoPilot v2.5.6b ~7ooood' Running Ken Lucke's Scripts (revised)! (M.BROUILLET1, CAT35, TOP18, MSG:155/M645;1) >>>>> All - """"" I've just finished reading Max Jones' interesting interview with Derek Taubert. To say that it was interesting is a great understatement. To learn of the impressive progress made by Taubert is truly astounding! Prior to this I had no idea (aside from rumors) that anyone actually had a workable Web Browser running on a GS. Not only that, but Derek also hosted a Web Page using his software and GNO. That kind of news ought get our juices going, folks! One of the great, but rarely spoken-of advantages of the GS, is the current super-low price of the used GS itself and the continued supply of parts from several sources. When compared to the cost of Macs or even lower cost PC-clones, we've got 'em beat by miles. Added to that, is the friendliness of the GS and it's ready ability to adapt to so many possibilities. Taubert's comments are getting to sound mighty interesting. :) I'm hoping that Max's interview will generate more discussion as well as hope among those who have just about given up on a GS as a smooth web browser. I've used the Lynx interface from Genie, but it doesn't do a whole lot for me; further, my local ISP doesn't "do" Lynx. I'm guessing, but this may be true also in most other areas? I have been on the fence about ordering a Mac (or clone) so as to put up a Web Page for an enterprise that I've been contemplating for some time. With the outlook being as good as indicated by Taubert, I think I'll just wait and see. I'd certainly rather spend my mullah right here in the A2/GS community. - Joachim (J.NELSON56, CAT35, TOP18, MSG:156/M645;1) <<<<< Joachim, """"" You should subscribe to Juiced.GS, that's where the interview was published, way back in the past... WELL worth the subscription price! Regards, Richard (RICHARD.B, CAT35, TOP18, MSG:157:/M645;1) >>>>> Richard - """"" >Joachim, You should subscribe to Juiced.GS, You are so right about that! There's a real good chance my envelope will be in the mail this week. :) I really feel that Derek oughtta hear some encouragement from the community and perhaps Max's interview will prompt some additional comments. Not totally unexpected I guess, is Derek's problem concerning software piracy. I perceive this is a serious blockage to his progress. What a shame! If I may daydream outloud.... it surprises me that the computer industry, regardless of manufactur, doesn't have a scheme for embedding a computer's serial number into it's ROM. Perhaps there could then be some tamper-proof way to have published software access the ROM for "signature" comparison. On the flip, it should be expected that when a registered owner of a software requests a duplicate for a new or different machine or whatever, it would be an inexpensive procedure. - Joachim >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: End part 3/12 crc: b3a3 >>>>>>>>>> * 2qwk! 2.03 * The first full-featured QWK reader for the Apple. Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Path: news1.icaen!news.uiowa.edu!news.physics.uiowa.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!express.ior.com!cnn.isc-br.com!nwfocus.wa.com!techall!norman.dodge From: norman.dodge@techall.wa.com Subject: GENIE & LAMP 4/12 Message-ID: <9701092347.0XFB900@techall.wa.com> Organization: TechAlliance X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Distribution: world Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 23:47:35 -0700 Lines: 159 >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Version 2.2 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Begin part 4/12 >>>>>>>>>> (J.NELSON56, CAT35, TOP18, MSG:159:/M645;1) >>> HOT TOPICS <<< """""""""""""""""" SHELL GAMES AND THE INTERNET I was asked whether it's possible to use a """""""""""""""""""""""""""" IIGS to access the incoming e-mail at an ISP. If yes, how? It oughta be possible with a shell account and Spectrum -- or am I dead wrong about this? Udo - ... with the IIGS into the next millennium - (U.HUTH, CAT35, TOP27, MSG:101/M645;1) >>>>> If the ISP has a shell, then it's definitely possible, and while """"" Spectrum will work, it's not absolutely necessary. What is needed is a comm program with VT-100 emulation (ANSI usually will work as well). Usually the isp will provide the pine program for shell users to access their mail (type "pine" at the UNIX prompt), which is a user friendly menu driven program that is fast and easy to use. If it does not exist, there is a similar program called elm (accessed similarly), which isn't as nice, but is reasonable. As a last resort, you can type "mail" at the prompt. Ryan http://www.keystroke.net/~rsuenaga "There's no shortage of windmills to tilt at."--Logan ANSITerm and CoPilot v2.55 (A2LAMP, CAT35, TOP27, MSG:102/M645;1) >>>>> If you have a shell account at the ISP, all you'd need is a VT100 """"" terminal and a modem. Spectrum is undoubtedly capable of acting like a VT100 terminal, so you should be covered. If you have the number to dial, the terminal settings, the username, and the password, I'm not sure what else you'd be asking for. Argus (ARGUS, CAT35, TOP27, MSG:103/M645;1) MORE PUBLISH IT! AND POSTSCRIPT Two more things to experiment with: """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Take any of your PI screen fonts (e.g. DESPLAINES.xx) and rename it to NORTHBROOK.xx. Now when you print your PostScript document (either to printer or disk), you'll get the Helvetica-Narrow font. I'm still playing with how the spacing and sizing is handled, and was hoping for some input. Also, renaming any font to Northbrook will get you Avantgarde. BTW, can anyone suggest a location for 15-20 bytes of code that most programs or ProDos will never walk on? I've already tried $300 and struck out. Hugh... (H.HOOD, CAT8, TOP18, MSG:159/645;1) >>>>> Thanks for trying it in the "print" (rather than "send") mode. """"" That encouraged me to try your method, and I _did_ get it to work. > For your ProTerm printing parameters, set all 4 margins to '0', set the > page width to '255', set the page length to '66', have _no_ printer init > string, do _not_ interpret dot commands, do _not_ eject final page, and > do _not_ strip control characters. I did a few experiments and discovered that the problem...as you suggested...was that page width needs to be 255. (I had previously had it set to 140.) I admit that I did not pay attention to your statement that extra carriage returns in the middle of a line could cause problems--because I was _sure_ I had read in the PostScript Language Reference Manual (the "red book") that PS ignored CR's unless preceded by "\". Now I checked and found thatwhat I remembered is true, BUT _only within text strings_. My apologies [eating my hat if I had one]. Now I took things a few steps further. I tried printing my file (your commands/Laserprep/Ctrl-D/modified PS file created by PI) with ProTERM set to interpret dot commands and eject final page: it still worked! This is great, because I just changed my default setting to page width of 255 characters--which works fine for my other uses of PT--and kept the other settings as they were...no need to change the set-up to print PI/PS docs. I then wondered if I could modify your modified Laserprep file so my printer, set to automatic "personality" switching, would recognize it as PS, to save mehaving to change things at the control panel before and after printing a PI/PS file. A comment line beginning with "%" seems to do it. My modification of your modified Laserprep begins: % Laserprep modified to print PublishIt files from ProTERM systemdict serverdict begin exitserver %%Title: "Laser Prep -- The Apple PostScript Dictionary (md)" %%Creator: Apple Software Engineering %%CreationDate: Thursday, March 19, 1987 %{appledict version #68 0 It worked just fine! This leads me to wonder if you (and I do mean _you_, because this would be way beyond my capabilities) could patch PI so we could use it for "direct" printing (from PI itself) with printers set to automatic switching. I am thinking that if you could insert a line at the beginning of the very first query (or command) the printer sends to the printer that the printer would see as an indication the transmission is in PS language, it might switch. For example, if you could insert "% comment" or "%", or perhaps just "%" at the beginning would do it. Jim Goodman (J.GOODMAN10, CAT8, TOP18, MSG161/645;1) <<<<< That is great news about your getting the PI PostScript """"" print-to-disk files to print sucessfully from ProTerm, without having to fire up PI first. Your sucess in addition to mine was critical to our efforts, as it shows the repeatability of what we are doing. Thanks for taking the time to work through all the 'junk' I threw at you. Don't worry about the confusion over the mid-line CR problem. I got burned several times by those pesky errors before I figured out that it really made a difference. Your Red Book explanation about them being outside of text strings is in fact the cause. I like your auto emulation switching mod to the Laserprep file. I'm getting closer to pinning down exactly how, from where (in the code) and when PI sends certain pieces of the PostScript code, and will try to work in the mod you suggested. FWIW, I've noticed that when PI substitutes Helvetica Narrow for any screen font that you choose to rename to Glenview, it keeps the character _width_ the same as with Helvetica, but increases the character _height_ slightly over the Helvetica height. I'm playing with this since Margot mentioned that many of the fonts she likes to substitute have widths narrower than Helvetica. I'd like to figure out where and how PI gets the font width info when doing its line length and height calculations. I suppose from the Laserwidths file, but... Hugh... (H.HOOD, CAT8, TOP18, MSG:162/M645;1) FAST EDDIE COMMENTS Just a comment: On a 60MHz PowerMac 6100, GUS (the """"""""""""""""""" other emulator) runs at speeds roughly equivalent to my accelerated Apple IIGS. I believe from comments I've seen that GUS uses a hand-coded assembly 65816 emulator. If the Fast Eddie team follows suit, I expect the speed problem will pretty much go away. Mike Westerfield >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: End part 4/12 crc: 3dc5 >>>>>>>>>> * 2qwk! 2.03 * The first full-featured QWK reader for the Apple. Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Path: news1.icaen!news.uiowa.edu!news.physics.uiowa.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!express.ior.com!cnn.isc-br.com!nwfocus.wa.com!techall!norman.dodge From: norman.dodge@techall.wa.com Subject: GENIE & LAMP 5/12 Message-ID: <9701092347.0XFBL00@techall.wa.com> Organization: TechAlliance X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Distribution: world Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 23:47:36 -0700 Lines: 155 >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Version 2.2 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Begin part 5/12 >>>>>>>>>> (BYTEWORKS, CAT5, TOP14, MSG:247/M645;1) >>>>> I've download Fast Eddie but can't seem to get it to work right. I """"" have a rom 1 gs and I've copy the rom file over to my Power Mac 7200/120. However when I start up Fast Eddie all I get is a sceen full of scrolling text and numbers. I must have something set up wrong. I confess to knowing little about typing in basic, so I may have not done something right. Any help would be most helpful. Thanks Bill Derowski (B.DEROWSKI, CAT5, TOP14, MSG:249/M645;1) >>>>> I too have a problem (freeze after the monitors bit depth message """"" being 256) and it too may be my Basic skills. Questions-- Do I copy the binary file to an HFS disk on the GS and then put it in the Fast Eddie folder? Do I have to use a ProDOS disk? If so what do I need on the Mac to read ProDOS disks? Speedy (R.REEDY, CAT5, TOP14, MSG:250/M645;1) >>>>> Bill, """"" I -suspect- that you haven't snagged your ROM properly. The docs give instructions on how to do it, but it requires your typing be exact. It wouldn't be that tough a task to build an EXEC file that would grab the ROM for you, but I haven't done it yet. And, of course, it's illegal to actually distribute the ROM sans Apple's permission. Ryan http://www.keystroke.net/~rsuenaga "There's no shortage of windmills to tilt at."--Logan ANSITerm and CoPilot v2.55 (A2LAMP, CAT5, TOP14, MSG:251/M645;1) >>>>> Alright I got Fast Eddie working. You were all right it was my """"" typing. But I was sure I typed it in very carefully and corrected all my mistakes (grin). I believe what I have learned about typing in basic is backspacing over errors and retyping doesn't remove the error or something to that effect. Anyway I'm up and running and my shareware fee has been sent. Bill (B.DEROWSKI, CAT5, TOP14, MSG:261/M645;1) >>>>> After checking things out with the rest of the staff, I've uploaded """"" an archive of two text files to the A2 library here. Once unpacked, they're named ROM01.EXE and ROM03.EXE and they can simply be EXEC'd from Applesoft BASIC to create the needed APPLE2GS.ROM image file for Fast Eddie. It's already been released, file #28224. Ryan http://www.keystroke.net/~rsuenaga "There's no shortage of windmills to tilt at."--Logan ANSITerm and CoPilot v2.55 (A2LAMP, CAT5, TOP14, MSG:262/M645;1) WITHER TAG? Ok, I'll take the blame. """"""""""" There's been a couple of things happening to me that really slowed donwn if not halted TAG for a while. First, I became unemployed a few months back, and looking for a new one has been a priority for me. Second, I ran for a county office in the last General Election, and between that, and working on several other candidate's campaigns, I got very little work done. Couple that with CIS eating the uploads I've been sending to Chris and we're behind schedule. HOWEVER, the next issue should be out within a few more weeks (depends on copying and mailing time), and we'll do either a back to back month for 2 issues, or send out a double disk issue to catch up. Mea Culpa! Later............Howard (H.KATZ, CAT17, TOP18, MSG41) >>> WHAT'S NEW <<< """""""""""""""""" LATEST ISSUE: THE APPLE BLOSSOM One of my virtual bosses, Steve """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Cavanaugh, asked me to post this: ======================================================== I've just dropped off the latest issue of Apple Blossom at the printer. They've promised to have it ready tomorrow, so if I can manage to squeeze into a post office to get the stamps (is something going on--the P.O. has been real busy lately?) I should be able to et the first ones in the mail on Saturday. They should all be mailed by Christmas Day (oooh, that's what's going on!) This issue has a great interview with Gary Utter, news from Applied Engineering in Australia, a Beginners' Corner article on Bits, Bytes and Blocks, an essay by Buzz Bester and letters on DOS 3.3 and assorted OS stuff. A reminder to the subscribers out there that this is the final issue of 1996, and if you haven't renewed your subscription yet, now's the time. Info is in the issue headed your way. Ryan http://www.keystroke.net/~rsuenaga "There's no shortage of windmills to tilt at."--Logan ANSITerm and CoPilot v2.55 (A2LAMP, CAT13, TOP17, MSG:52/M645;1) OLRIGHT! FOR ANSITERM AND DELPHI """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" ANNOUNCMENT FOR ANSITERM/DELPHI USERS! OLRIGHT! Off-line Reader for Delphi has just been uploaded to the A2 Library. If I have everything done properly, it should be file #28205 when the librarian(s) can get to it (Holidays, y'know). OLRight! is an extensive off-line reader script set for ANSITerm, which is intended for use with Hermes (File #25304) the Freeware text editor NDA by Andre Horstmann, and Instant Replay (File #21711) the Freeware NDA macro evironment by Jason Simmons. The ANSITerm scripts log you onto Delphi, perform on-line functions, and log you off. A CoPilot-like menu is used to handle some setup functions. Hermes is used for reading and writing E-mail and forum messages, while Instant Replay is used to provide some assistance with formatting addresses, etc to suit the scripts' needs. Feature set: LOGIN: o Sprintnet dial/logon o Telnet dial/logon (sorry, you have to edit the script for your ISP) o Multiple redials or one alternate number supported o Any valid serial port rate o Login port information saved (option) >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: End part 5/12 crc: 6542 >>>>>>>>>> * 2qwk! 2.03 * The first full-featured QWK reader for the Apple. Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Path: news1.icaen!news.uiowa.edu!chi-news.cic.net!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!cs.utexas.edu!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!express.ior.com!cnn.isc-br.com!nwfocus.wa.com!techall!norman.dodge From: norman.dodge@techall.wa.com Subject: GENIE & LAMP 6/12 Message-ID: <9701092347.0XFC000@techall.wa.com> Organization: TechAlliance X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Distribution: world Date: Thu, 09 Jan 97 23:47:37 -0700 Lines: 156 >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Version 2.2 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Begin part 6/12 >>>>>>>>>> MAIL/WORKSPACE o Upload files to workspace using any binary protocol supported by both Delphi and ANSITerm. o Send E-mail, either regular mail or Delphi Binary files. o Receive E-mail, either regular mail or Delphi Binary Files. o Automatic purging of old mail - 2 previous receipts available at all times. o Download files from Workspace o Optional performing of mail actions from any SIG FORUMS o Get topic list o CLEAR or SET topics to fine-tune what messages you see. o Set your forum nickname o Get a list of threads (messages linked by a common subject) o One-time free-form command capability (message searches and more) o Each-time free-form command capability (e.g. ignore specific subjects) o Can choose to not read or not transmit messages o Reply to specific messages o Add new threads DATABASES o Get a topic list. o Search databases (can widen or narrow search). o Download files based on search criteria. o Submit files to database from workspace. OFF-LINE MENU o Set up uploads o Set up Clearing/Setting of topics o Set up Forum Nickname o Dial Delphi o Restart Delphi operations o Terminal mode o Delayed dial o Quit options ...and more Since I am the only one who has had any time at all to play with this, it should be considered a BETA release. Needless to say, this is a very complex project! I will be available both here on Genie and on Delphi to supply advice, support, and a shoulder to cry on ;^) Don V. Zahniser d.zahniser@genie.com dzahniser@delphi.com (D.ZAHNISER, CAT35, TOP30, MSG:214;M645;1) FAST EDDIE: PULBIC BETA FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE """"""""""""""""""""""" Press Contact: Synergetix Henrik Gudat Andre Horstmann Missionsstrasse 38 Hoehenweg 3d 4055 Basel 6300 Zug Switzerland Switzerland gudath@ubaclu.unibas.ch andre.horstmann@unifr.ch Santa Claus is drooling: Apple IIGS Emulation for Power Macintosh Computers! ***** Fast Eddie Labs releases Fast Eddie Beta 1 Fast Eddie Labs, Switzerland - 12/22/96 - Fast Eddie Labs announced today the immediate availablity of a beta release of its Apple II emulation software code-named "Fast Eddie". This unique software product marks a new achievement in Apple II emulation history - Fast Eddie is the first publicly available emulator for Macintosh computers that emulates the most powerful Apple II computer ever, the Apple IIgs. Fast Eddie Labs has invested a tremendous amount of development time in order to provide the public with a reliable emulation software in 1996, the year the Apple IIgs celebrated its 10th anniversary. This public beta is the beginning of a series of updates that will bring you the most powerful, most versatile and most enjoyable virtual Apple II. Fast Eddie was started in 1994 by Andre Horstmann, a long-time Apple IIgs programmer with special interest in CPU design, but put on ice soon after that. During a developers' meeting in early 1996, Andre Horstmann and Henrik Gudat agreed on resurrecting the Fast Eddie project and turning it into a fully functional Apple IIgs emulator. Urs Hochstrasser joined the team and added debugging tools that greatly simplified development. Fast Eddie emulates a Apple IIgs computer with up to eight 3.5" disk drives, up to 8Mb RAM, keyboard, joystick and mouse. Furthermore, the user can choose between both ROM versions (ROM images not included) for maximum compatibility. It supports all video modes (40/80 text, mixed, hires, double hires, super hires) and a superfast memory management scheme for top performance. Contrary to other emulators, Fast Eddie features no-compromise Ensoniq sound emulation with mono, stereo, stereo enhanced and mind-blowing Dolby Pro Logic surround sound. On the peripherals side, you'll be pleased to know that you can mount up to 8 disks of several gigabytes each. One device is reserved for the built-in disk drive that can deal with ProDOS, HFS and MS-DOS disks without requiring you to make disk images or activate PC Exchange. This beta has been released due to the incredible demand for such an emulation software. Fast Eddie protects your past investments in Apple II software and offers you a convincing way for painless migration to the Power Macintosh platform. Fast Eddie Labs is working on several additional components that will be released in due time, including emulation and sound core in PowerPC assembly language, low-level disk access, and much more. Fast Eddie is sold as a shareware product. To simplify payment, Fast Eddie Labs is cooperating with Kagi Shareware, a company specialized in processing shareware fees (http://www.kagi.com). A single user license is available for US$25. Please contact Fast Eddie Labs for site licenses and special pricing for educational institutions. Fast Eddie Labs is a spin-off of Bright Software, a renowned provider of productivity, entertainment and scientific software with over a dozen releases including the popular ShadowWrite, Hermes, The Gate (editor's choice), SpaceFox, ShadowDial, Symbolix, MultiView II, among others. Since 1989, Bright Software has been developing unique software products for Apple II computers, and the release of Fast Eddie gives evidence of our commitment to the Apple II platform. hg,12/22/96 For a limited time, you can surf the EddieWeb at http://www.swix.ch/clan/shadow/eddie.html . We will move these pages to a new ISP very soon. Power Macintosh, Apple IIgs, Ensoniq, Dolby Pro Logic are trademarks of their respective holders. The Gate and Spacefox are trademarks of Seven Hills Software Corp., Florida. (A2LAMP, CAT5, TOP14, MSG:244/M645;1) >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: End part 6/12 crc: 500b >>>>>>>>>> * 2qwk! 2.03 * The first full-featured QWK reader for the Apple. Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Path: news1.icaen!news.uiowa.edu!chi-news.cic.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!express.ior.com!cnn.isc-br.com!nwfocus.wa.com!techall!norman.dodge From: norman.dodge@techall.wa.com Subject: GENIE & LAMP 7/12 Message-ID: <9701100003.002SE00@techall.wa.com> Organization: TechAlliance X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Distribution: world Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 00:03:18 -0700 Lines: 155 >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Version 2.2 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Begin part 7/12 >>>>>>>>>> <<<<< Fast Eddie Downloading Sites """"" Fast Eddie has been uploaded to "info-mac" and "umich" archives. Because these archives do have a certain lagtime, we have made this software available on other sites for a limited time. As soon as info-mac offers Fast Eddie for downloading, the software will be removed from the sites below. Requirements Fast Eddie requires a Power Macintosh computer. (A 66Mhz Power Mac will translate into roughly 3 Mhz emulation speed.) Sites For the next few days, Fast Eddie is available from the following sites: http://www.unibas.ch/bothebel/xmas/FastEddie1b1.hqx http://www.amnesty-basel.ch/xmas/FastEddie1b1.hqx (*) This file is a self-expanding, binhexed Compact Pro archive. It's somewhat below 1 Mb. (*) I'm partially sponsoring this site (incl. phone bill), so no money of AI will be wasted. (A2LAMP, CAT5, TOP14, MSG:245/M645;1) <<<<< Fast Eddie (possibly) Frequently Asked Questions """"" 1. Registration We have signed up at Kagi Shareware, a service specialized in processing shareware fees. Kagi is collecting shareware fees for us. However, Kagi is NOT offering any kind of customer support. All comments, suggestions and problems concerning registration codes should directly go to Fast Eddie Labs. In order to get the quickest possible answer, you should _always_ send your e-mails to _both_ authors, namely gudath@ubaclu.unibas.ch and andre.horstmann@unifr.ch . Q: What's the difference between the unregistered and the registered version? A: The only difference is the 15 minutes limit. After working with Eddie for 15 minutes, the program displays a message and quits. Q: How do I register? A: The Fast Eddie archive includes a Register application. Please fill in the boxes, choose a method of payment and forward this form to Kagi Shareware. How to contact Kagi is explained in the Fast Eddie Read Me. IMPORTANT: when starting up, Fast Eddie displays a serial code. You should send this code along with a text copy of your order to gudath@ubaclu.unibas.ch _and_ andre.horstmann@unifr.ch . As soon as we receive a confirmation from Kagi, we will forward you your registration code per e-mail. Please keep this code in a safe place. Q: This is confusing. What exactly do I have to do to register? A: - start Eddie and write down the serial code in the shareware notice - quit Eddie - start the Register application - fill in the order form - save the order as a text file or in the clipboard - forward the order form to Kagi as explained in the Read Me. Keep in mind that some methods of payment can only be sent via snail mail and not e-mail or fax, or vice versa. The Read Me will tell you. - Upon sending Kagi the order form, send an email to gudath@ubaclu.unibas.ch _and_ andre.horstmann@unifr.ch with a) a text copy of the order you sent to Kagi b) your SERIAL CODE c) your complete snail mail and e-mail address Q: Funny, I registered Fast Eddie but it reverts to the unregistered version. A: Please forward your old registration code and the serial number printed in the shareware notice to gudath@ubaclu.unibas.ch _and_ andre.horstmann@unifr.ch . We will check the code and, if necessary, send you a new one for free. Please do not contact Kagi Shareware if you encounter problems with registration unless you have questions regarding your payment. Q: Is this fee valid for all upcoming versions of Fast Eddie? A: Yes. Q: Why should I pay a shareware fee for a *beta*? A: This is a good point. We believe that the current release provides enough functionality in order to use it as a game console or productivity tool. Q: Do you have special pricing for schools? A: Yes, e-mail for details 2. Support Q: Are you actually interested in any kind of feedback? A: YES! Q: Could you send me a ROM image? A: Sorry, no. We are not allowed to distribute ROM images. Q: I sent you an e-mail, but got no response. You guys suck! A: I don;t know how much e-mails we will get, but it is probable that we will get more mails than we can handle. Q: So, I don't own a Apple IIgs and can't make a ROM dump. A: You are only allowed to use ROM dumps with Fast Eddie if you also own a "physical", non-virtual Apple IIgs. Q: I have a few suggestions regarding improvements. What are the chances that you put my suggestions on your to-do list? A: 99% Q: Do you offer on-line support? A: Yes and no. We expect you to read the enclosed documentation, but if you still have questions feel free to contact us. We are also monitoring comp.sys.apple2 and comp.emulators.apple2. Q: comp.sys.apple2? I heard this newsgroup is an alias of alt.flame. A: Hmm, that's correct. And we make use of FlameStation, although only on Eddie-users with unregistered versions. :-D 3. Other issues Q: What do I need in order to run Fast Eddie? A: You need a Power Mac (any), 640x480 display with 256 colors, a ROM image (ROM 1 or 3), and Apple IIgs software. Q: This thing is dog-slow. A: Then your Mac is dog-slow. :) Seriously, Fast Eddie is running at 3Mhz and above with pure C code that is not optimized by the compiler. I don't think this is slow. Q: I don't understand. Why is it not optimized? A: Because the compiler goes belly up while optimizing the CPU emulation. >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: End part 7/12 crc: 1727 >>>>>>>>>> * 2qwk! 2.03 * The first full-featured QWK reader for the Apple. Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Path: news1.icaen!news.uiowa.edu!chi-news.cic.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!express.ior.com!cnn.isc-br.com!nwfocus.wa.com!techall!norman.dodge From: norman.dodge@techall.wa.com Subject: GENIE & LAMP 8/12 Message-ID: <9701100003.002ST00@techall.wa.com> Organization: TechAlliance X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Distribution: world Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 00:03:19 -0700 Lines: 155 >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Version 2.2 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Begin part 8/12 >>>>>>>>>> Q: My old 601/66Mhz PowerPC is emulating faster than my supercool portable 603e/100 Mhz. What the hell are you doing? A: Some 603e systems do not have level 2 cache that greatly speeds up Fast Eddie. Also, 603e systems are often built on low-performance mamaboards. Lastly, Fast Eddie has been compiled specifically for 601 PowerPC chips. Q: And when can I expect a faster version? A: Soon. We will add hand-crafted assembly code soon. Q: Hey, and what about IWM emulation? A: IWM emulation *is* actually mostly done (and even part of this beta!), but two things are missing so we have disabled it. Coming soon. Q: Iiik, and 1-bit sound, 5.25" disks and serial ports? A: How embarassing. It's in the pipeline, promised. Q: Why did you write Fast Eddie? A: Our GS monitors turned very fuzzy recently, making it hard to read Merlin-16 code. (A2LAMP, CAT5, TOP14, MSG:246/M645;1) >>> THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE <<< """"""""""""""""""""""""""""" A2, PART DEUX Genie is on its last legs. """"""""""""" The new owners are killing it, deliberately, IMO. Delphi is not Genie, but it IS a place where we can build the same sort of community and fellowship that we have had here. _IF_ Genie survives, then Delphi will be a compliment to it. If Genie dies (as I expect) then Delphi will replace it. A2 on Delphi is much like A2 here, except not as busy, because we don't have enough people yet. To make this thing succeed, we need more users. (That's a strong hint. We NEED you all on Delphi. :) >> "I always thought the GEnie Lib's are full of great info, let alone the >> crowd that hangs in A2." We can move the crowd, or at least we are trying to. And we can recreate the libraries from our own files. (We're in the process of doing that, we've been keeping our own offsite archives for years now. Everything that goes into the Genie library also goes into our own backups. We WILL get that stuff uploaded to the Delphi libraries, although it won't happen over night.) >> "I know there are probably a few waiting for a GEM/Copilot version for >> Delphi to be uploaded here on Genie (hint, hint, 'twould be a nice >> present for the holiday! ;)" I have high hopes that we will be able to upload some script packages for at least READING Delphi messages before Christmas. With a little luck (and the time to do it) we will have some scripts that will actually take you through the compose/upload process as well. CoPilot is coming. It will not be ready before Christmas (barring a miracle:), but it is coming. Meanwhile, we'll make other, usable, options available. Probably several of them, so you can pick and choose which one you like best. :) To join Delphi: 1. Dial by modem 1-800-695-4002 (or from the Internet, telnet to delphi.com) 2. At the username prompt enter JOINDELPHI 3. At the password prompt enter 9610SDI Full details about membership plans are provided during the online registration. Gary R. Utter (H.MOST, CAT35, TOP30, MSG:35/M645;1) >>>>> Gary (and the rest of the "transition crew"), """"" Believe me, As the 35-year-old father of two kids (11 and 5) and a 200-mile/day commute, I can appreciate the RLI factor. And I am compelled to say that considering the saga of CoPilot - Its age, its original author is gone, its source code is in a trash heap, etc. - I'm amazed that CoPilot works as beautifully as it currently does. That is really a testament to the incredible support by both "official" parties and volunteers. From Spectrum & ANSIterm to the scripters and other code slingers to the emergence of Delphi as an alternative home, this is a vibrant example of how the Apple II is not about chips 'n' solder, but about COMMUNITY in the fundamental sense of the word. (can't ya just hear the music welling in the background ;) A2 users really are "people" who have it "together"... Thanks for the ride so far, and here is to the next round! _ _ (6)-(6)_ ____ ( __, ) |~~~|8_)_____(_ooo___ |___| (FROG.MAN, CAT29, TOP17, MSG:106/M645;1) >>>>> O' lord high priest of the tree frogs... """"" In some ways, I'd use the word CULT to describe what we are and do. Think about it... We are shunned by the main-stream "computing" community; and our achievments are repressed, lost to history, by that same community. If any member of that popular "computing" community should be exposed to our -miracles-, they disbelieve what they see. Sometimes that main-stream "computing" community will persecute our rights to access and voice. But who do they call when their "experts" can't do, fix, or decipher their main-stream computers? ___(2___ Mike Brouillette / "The Un-Dead Apple" / , _`' _\ M.BROUILLET1@genie.com <---- Until Dec 31, 1996 \)|(@)m(_, mikebrouillette@haaug.org<---- Interem ~7ooood' mbroui11ette@delphi.com <---- After Jan.15, 1997 (M.BROUILLET1, CAT29, TOP17, MSG:107/M645;1) >>> MESSAGE SPOTLIGHT <<< """"""""""""""""""""""""" Category 2, Topic 7 Message 278 Wed Dec 25, 1996 A2.CHARLIE at 10:04 EST By the time you read this, presents will have been unwrapped, and folks will be settling down to "rest up" after the hustle and bustle of getting ready for Christmas. It's a good time to remember that the spirit of Christmas calls us to be a caring, sharing people filled with love for one another. It is truly more blessed to give than to receive. May the spirit of Christmas remain with you and yours throughout this next >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: End part 8/12 crc: dc14 >>>>>>>>>> * 2qwk! 2.03 * The first full-featured QWK reader for the Apple. Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Path: news1.icaen!news.uiowa.edu!chi-news.cic.net!cs.utexas.edu!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!express.ior.com!cnn.isc-br.com!nwfocus.wa.com!techall!norman.dodge From: norman.dodge@techall.wa.com Subject: GENIE & LAMP 9/12 Message-ID: <9701100003.002T900@techall.wa.com> Organization: TechAlliance X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Distribution: world Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 00:03:19 -0700 Lines: 162 >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Version 2.2 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Begin part 9/12 >>>>>>>>>> year, and be renewed each Christmas to come. God bless us, every one! Charlie and Betty Hartley [*][*][*] While on Genie, do you spend most of your time downloading files? If so, you may be missing out some excellent information in the Bulletin Board area. The messages listed above only scratch the surface of what's available and waiting for you in the bulletin board area. If you are serious about your Apple II, the GenieLamp staff strongly urge you to give the bulletin board area a try. There are literally thousands of messages posted from people like you from all over the world. [EOA] [HUN]////////////////////////////// THE TREASURE HUNT / ///////////////////////////////// Yours for the Downloading """"""""""""""""""""""""" by Douglas Cuff [D.CUFF] >>> IT'S BEEN EDUCATIONAL <<< """"""""""""""""""""""""""""" Welcome back to the Treasure Hunt. This month, we look at some files from the education library (#51). [*][*][*] File #8819: LIFESTYLES.BXY (71820 bytes) ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Operation Lifestyle by Dr. Joel S. Retholtz adapts the Canadian Heart Association risk factor analysis scheme to administer a quiz about your lifestyle. It will ask you about your diet, your indulgences (smoking, alcohol, drugs), whether you exercise, your behaviour behind the wheel of a car, and so on. After you finish, it will rate your lifestyle in one of four categories: hazardous, risky, good, or excellent. This DOS 3.3 disk archive uses graphic routines from the Beagle Bros disk "Apple Mechanic" (later Shape Mechanic). Unfortunately, it doesn't use them to good effect: the font used for the questions is about the same of 40-column mode text, and the font used for the answer is larger and in color. Except for a short animation when reporting the results--lifted straight from the Beagle Bros disk and largely meaningless in this context--the program might just as well be text-based. This archive is a natural for updating to ProDOS. If you'd like to see the FILE MECHANIC show you how to handle it, write to GenieLamp A2 and say so. If you'd like to try this conversion yourself, you'll find the necessary files are #11547, SHAPE.MECH1.BXY and #11546 SHAPE.MECH2.BXY. Freeware for any Apple II. File #16235: PING.PONG1.BXY (82688 bytes) File #16236: PING.PONG2.BXY (89728 bytes) File #16237: PING.NOTES.BXY (2560 bytes) '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' "The Great Ping Pong Ball Experiment" by Phil Shapiro (art by Ron Evry) is a sort of electronic storybook about the idea of dropping a ping pong ball at the source of the Nile to see if it will make it to Cairo. It was created using the Slide Shop toolkit from Scholastic Software, a program that I had never heard of until now (despite its availability in 1991). This kit allows for attractive screen wipes of the hi-res screen, plus music. The software would seem to run on any Apple II, even those with no lower-case nor 80-column screen, and yet is aware of the Apple IIgs and the mouse! (It doesn't quite know how to handle a mouse and a joystick if both are plugged in simultaneously.) The fanciful story by Phil Shapiro takes two disk sides to tell. While well told--I particularly liked the occasional light touch--it takes a little too long to get going. The art by Ron Evry ranges from adequate to attractive. Freeware for any Apple II with 64K. File #17286: PT.SCHEDULE.BXY (50048 bytes) ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Scheduler v2.1 by Patrick M. Gormley is designed to help schedule parent-teacher conferences. It allows for a maximum of 64 teachers, 3 conference days, 24 appointments per day per teacher, and 18 conferences per parent per day. It was designed for school secretaries to use. In this demo, certain features of this program have been turned off until you pay the $25 shareware fee. You begin by selecting up to three days of the week when teachers are available for consultation and the times they are available. You then enter the names of all the teachers. You can also choose to enter a brief letter to parents--10 lines of about 75 characters. With this done, it's possible to start slotting parents into the teachers' schedules. You are asked for the parent's name and the student's name. You then get to choose a day of the week and a time. Finally, you choose the teacher to be consulted. I happen to think there's too little scheduling software for the Apple II, and practically no _good_ scheduling software, so I was thrilled to find Scheduler and prepared to love it. Unfortunately, I couldn't. Never mind the weird coloring of the desktop interface--that's minor. Never mind the fact that Scheduler is badly programmed--instead of checking to see if data files exist, it hangs when it doesn't find them. Far more serious is how poorly Scheduler handles scheduling conflicts. If a parent--Colonel Mustard--is scheduled for two conferences at the same time with two different teachers (Mr Blonde and Mr Pink), the program doesn't warn you about the problem. When you print out Colonel Mustard's "parent" schedule, only the appointment with Mr Blonde is mentioned. If a teacher--Mr Blonde--has two parents (Colonel Mustard and Miss Scarlett) scheduled to see him at the same time, the program is a little better behaved, but not much. What happens is that the second parent, Miss Scarlett, is given the next available time slot for that day. There's no warning about this--it just happens. What happens if there are no more slots for that day? When you print the schedules for Colonel Mustard and Miss Scarlet, _both_ parents are told that Mr Blonde is not available. Notice that this only happens at the printing stage--there's no warning before you get to this stage. The author concludes his brief documentation with the notation: "This is a good program, it saved our school secretaries about 70 hours of work the first time it was used (November 1988)." I can only assume the secretaries adapted their work habits to the vagaries of this program. Shareware demo for any Apple IIgs with 512K ($25). File #11763: RATIONAL.BXY (69300 bytes) '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: End part 9/12 crc: 1f26 >>>>>>>>>> * 2qwk! 2.03 * The first full-featured QWK reader for the Apple. Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Path: news1.icaen!news.uiowa.edu!chi-news.cic.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!express.ior.com!cnn.isc-br.com!nwfocus.wa.com!techall!norman.dodge From: norman.dodge@techall.wa.com Subject: GENIE & LAMP 10/12 Message-ID: <9701100003.002TO00@techall.wa.com> Organization: TechAlliance X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Distribution: world Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 00:03:20 -0700 Lines: 159 >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Version 2.2 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Begin part 10/12 >>>>>>>>>> The Rational Person by Martin Sandry, Ph.D. and Kenneth Peiser, Ph.D., two registered clinical psychologists is a multiple choice quiz that attempts to help you understand rational thinking. You are given a scenario--"I'm with a friend, meet an old friend, and can't remember her name." and are asked to predict both how a rational person would feel and what s/he would think. For both the thinking and feeling options--which can you do in either order--you are given four possible responses. There are 31 scenarios for adults and 23 for children/adolescents. It's fairly easy to score well if you use some common sense, but not so easy to get a perfect score. In other words, even adults who think of themselves as fairly intelligent and self-aware can learn something from this. This program is text-based, but it makes very good use of the text screen. It also has a good user interface: power users won't get frustrated by hand-holding, and new users won't get frustrated because they don't know what to do. It takes advantage of lower case and 80-column capabilities if it finds them, but doesn't assume they are there. Freeware for any Apple II. File #11714: TELL.TIME.BXY (3780 bytes) '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' This simple BASIC program by Chris Deprospero uses a hi-res clock to help youngsters use an old-fashioned round analog clock to learn to learn to tell the time. It has two modes--look at the hands and enter the time it represents, or enter a time and have the hands move to that position. The user interface is pretty simple, but it doesn't get in the way. An amusing anamoly occurs if you forget that you're supposed to press Q to quit and try Control-C: a new time is chosen and the clock hands are drawn for that time--without erasing the old hands. Shareware for any Apple II ($5). File #9116: WORLD.DISK.BXY (57960 bytes) ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' World Disk by Michael D. Giltzow is an interactive electronic political world atlas that resembles a HyperStudio stack. The program uses the 320-mode IIgs desktop to present a map of the world with 17 "plates" (only 3 of which are active in this demo version). After you choose a plate, you are taken to a geographical/political area--in the demo, North America, Central America, or the West Indies. Each plate has a number of political and/or geographical regions. For example, North America has such regions as Canada, Alaska, the continental United States, Mexico, Greenland (?), Pacific Ocean, Atlantic Ocean, Hudson Bay, and the Gulf of Mexico. In "learn" mode, you can either click on the button for an area, or choose from an alphabetical lists of names. In either case, the area is labelled. In "practice" mode, you must match the name to the button. There is also an alphabetical name index that allows you to find a country or area, no matter which plate you happen to be on. The maps are attractive and colorful, but not perhaps as well-rendered as one might wish, even given the limits of resolution. The island of Newfoundland--my home province--is recognizable only from its position, not its shape. The programmer's credentials worry me more than a little. First, he manages to misspell "Arctic" as "Artic". I recognize that this a common error, but this was meant to be educational software and should have been caught. Second, the programmer doesn't seem to know the term "political atlas"--instead claims it is a "country atlas". So much for the programmer as educator--what of the programmer are programmer? Unfortunately, there are a few slips there as well. The check boxes next to the lists of name don't work in standard fashion in either mode. In "learn" mode, there is no way to uncheck a box at all. In "practice" mode, the check boxes behave more like radio buttons--except that, if you try to check a second box, the first click turns off the first box. Another click is necessary to turn on the second box. Somehow I get the impression that the arrival of HyperStudio quickly relegated this program to the ashcan of history. Shareware demo for Apple IIgs with 756K ($12.50) [EOA] [PRO]////////////////////////////// PROFILES / ///////////////////////////////// Who's Who In Apple II """"""""""""""""""""" by Tim Kellers [KELLERS] >>> WHO'S WHO? <<< """""""""""""""""" ~ GenieLamp Profile: Ryan Suenaga This month we meet the new editor of GenieLamp A2, Ryan Suenaga. A prolific writer in the Apple II community, Ryan has several staff duties on A2 both on Genie and Delphi. GenieLamp> Who are you, and what is your involvement with the Apple II """"""""" community? Ryan> I am, let's see, maybe starting with my name would work out: my name """" is Ryan Suenaga. I'm the incoming editor of GenieLamp A2. My major contributions to the Apple II world have been with writing. I have regular columns in Max Jones' _Juiced.GS_ ("II Be Named Later"), and Steve Cavanaugh's _The Apple Blossom_ ("Talking.II"), and I've had some things published by Howard Katz and Chris Serrau in _The Appleworks Gazette_, as well as in _GenieLamp A2_ and _GS+ Magazine_. I've had some things published in my user group's newsletter as well, but I've pretty well given that up over the last few months. I also do some fooling around in _Hyperstudio_, and some sysop work in the A2 and PowerPC areas on Genie and Delphi. I also got involved recently with the IIScribe forum on Delphi, which is a home for people who write about the Apple II. During the regular workday, I'm a social worker for Kaiser Permanente, which is a large health maintenance organization, as well as a crisis worker for the Crisis Response Team. GenieLamp> How long have you been involved with computing in general and """"""""" the the Apple II in particular? Ryan> My dad got the family a computer back in 1982; because he told the """" salespeople at ComputerLand that it was for the kids (me and my older sister), they steered us to an Apple model. In those days, there weren't really many other Apple models besides the Apple II, so we went home with an Apple ][+. I still have that computer in a closet. I've been an Apple II fan ever since. Like nearly everyone out there, I've since been exposed to Windows, MSDOS, and the MacOS, but I still use an Apple II for virtually all of the real work I need to do. I have two Apple IIgs systems and an Apple //c+ running at home, as well as a few Macintosh systems to help me with things that we can't yet do with an Apple II (I can't take one of my II's under my arm and do some writing over at the coffee shop, and I can't have one of the II's act as a file server, for instance). GenieLamp> Knowing that you have written many articles about the Apple II """"""""" for various publications, where did your interest in writing begin? Ryan> I don't really know where any of that started. I had to write--like """" a maniac--while I was in graduate school. In fact, I started doing all of this Apple II writing around that time. I rejoined my local user group (Hawai'i Macintosh and Apple Users Society) around that time, too, >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: End part 10/12 crc: 9ff6 >>>>>>>>>> * 2qwk! 2.03 * "You go online, you get techno-weenievision." - J.Harris Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Path: news1.icaen!news.uiowa.edu!news.physics.uiowa.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!express.ior.com!cnn.isc-br.com!nwfocus.wa.com!techall!norman.dodge From: norman.dodge@techall.wa.com Subject: GENIE & LAMP 11/12 Message-ID: <9701100003.002U400@techall.wa.com> Organization: TechAlliance X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Distribution: world Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 00:03:21 -0700 Lines: 161 >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Version 2.2 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Begin part 11/12 >>>>>>>>>> and they hadn't had an Apple II column in their newsletter for quite some time, so I started doing that, which was more frustrating than rewarding. A few months later, I went to my first Kansasfest, and discussed doing some writing with my roommate there, Bill Moore, who happened to write for _GS+_ on a semi-regular basis. That led to my getting an article published there, a review of a Deskjet portable printer, which was the first time I actually got paid to write something. I figured it would also look good for my resume to be able to add some "professional articles published" to my work experience. Unfortunately, that was also the _last_ issue of _GS+_. However, that did lead to both Steve Cavanaugh and Max Jones asking me to assist with writing in their publications, so things turned out well after all. GenieLamp> Now that you have become the editor of GenieLamp, can you tell """"""""" us about what that publication is, has been and will continue to be? Ryan> GenieLamp is a freeware publication that is published by John """" Peters. Originally, it covered the Atari areas of Genie; eventually, several different computer RoundTables on Genie started getting their own versions of GenieLamp. GenieLamp is put out on the first of each month. It includes highlights of things going on in the Bulletin Board of the RoundTable, news, reviews, editorials, all the things you'd expect in a publication. With the recent downsizing of Genie, GenieLamp A2 is the only version of GenieLamp that is still publishing. GenieLamp> Considering the recent diversification of Apple II presences in """"""""" several forms on Delphi and the Internet, can you describe the role that the GenieLamp publication will play in the expanded market? Ryan> GenieLamp's always been pretty freely distributable; in fact, it's """" already available on a lot of sites on the World Wide Web, and it's usually posted on newsgroups (like comp.sys.apple2) within a day or two of its release. And several issues (if not all of them) are already available on Delphi in the IIScribe Forum. The first few months I think I'll have my hands full just trying to keep a production schedule going. However, I do plan to make GenieLamp A2 available in more places (like the A2 and IIScribe areas on Delphi), and I'm thinking about putting up a World Wide Web page specifically for GenieLamp A2. That'll take time, though. I'd guess maybe as much as six months (time, as does not surprise anyone, is on a premium here). GenieLamp> Do you have plans to carry information on cross-platform issues """"""""" in GenieLamp? Ryan> I think that, as much as possible, I'd like to keep GenieLamp A2 as """" Apple II specific as possible; however, part of being Apple II specific means doing cross-platform support. That might sound weird, and in some ways it is weird, but it's true. Some examples of cross-platform issues that are ery Apple II specific include Apple II emulators (like Gus, Fast Eddie, and //e 2.0.1), scavanging hardware and software (hard drives, floppy drives, monitors, CD Roms, fonts, sounds, and more!). The other possibility for cross-platform issues in GenieLamp is news from the general world of computing. Things like Apple's acquisition of NeXT, for instance, or the development of the BeOS, which are not Apple II specific, might be material worth covering in GenieLamp A2. Ultimately, what the readers want will dictate what is included. GenieLamp> Will GenieLamp focus on IIGS issues or is there sufficent """"""""" information and interest in catering to the needs of the 8 bit II User? Ryan> That's a tough question. """" There's not a lot of Apple II development going on right now, and most of it is focused on the IIgs. When we're talking "news", then, what will be new tends to be IIgs products. This is not to say that the 8-bit Apple II is not still a viable and usable platform. Look at three Prodos 8 programs that come to mind: ProTERM 3.1, Publish It! 4, and Appleworks 5.1. With those three programs, an online service or Internet Service Provider, a //e, and a little hardware, you can cruise the Internet, compose and receive email, manage your money, do your taxes, write letters, print out newsletters, and use the latest inkjet and laser printers. Moreover, those programs would take a fraction of the memory and disk space that equivalents on a Macintosh would take, for instance. This is not to belittle what work you can do on another platform; this is to point out that even 8-bit Apple IIs--late 1970's technology, at heart--can still do serious work as we approach the late 1990's. New products for 8-bit Apple IIs are always welcome, and any news of the 8-bit world will be covered in GenieLamp A2. GenieLamp> Do you have time, and is there sufficient interest, in """"""""" producing GenieLamp in all the versions that is has been produced, recently? Ryan> Do I have the time? Well, no, but that hasn't stopped me before. """" Recently, Doug Cuff sent me some extremely detailed notes on the historyand production of GenieLamp A2, including how to produce those alternative versions of GenieLamp, including the Hyperstudio and Hypercard versions. I would like to continue to put these out, and that is, in fact, the plan. However, I'm not sure if I can get all of them out as promptly as Doug did. I'd expect, realistically, for GenieLamp A2 in its AWP and TXT versions to be uploaded to the Genie A2 library (and possibly elsewhere) sometime on the first of the month. Note that this does not say "released", it just says "uploaded". Also note that it doesn't say "Eastern time." The other versions will be uploaded by the fifth of the month. GenieLamp> If the focus of GenieLamp becomes multi on line service """"""""" oriented will it carry a new name? Ryan> I've had a lot of opportunity to think about this. """" I have concerns--I think we all have concerns--about Genie's future. In my eyes, it's very tenuous. Provided Genie is still here and I still have access to the A2LAMP account--the editor's account for GenieLamp A2--I'll continue to put out GenieLamp just as it's been produced these last few years. We may expand in other areas as well--for instance, I've been considering re-incorporating A2Pro coverage into GenieLamp A2, as it's been quite some time since GenieLamp A2Pro's last issue. However, if Genie ceases to exist or the A2LAMP account itself ceases to exist, I think we can safely predict that GenieLamp--_in its current forms_--will also cease to exist. If that happens, I intend to continue to produce a freeware, freely distributable online publication regarding the Apple II, which I'll discuss later. GenieLamp> GenieLamp was until recently published by the DigiPub forum on """"""""" Genie, which is now defunct. Are there plans to create a new, or merge GenieLamp into, Forum on Delphi? Ryan> GenieLamp A2 will have a home on Delphi--the II Scribe forum, which """" is a custom forum set up for people who write about the Apple II. I intend to maintain support there as well as on Genie's A2 Roundtable, and to upload new issues there as well as on Genie. If, as I mentioned earlier, GenieLamp and/or the A2LAMP account ceases to exist, I intend to continue with a GenieLamp-like publication. This >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: End part 11/12 crc: 1c4a >>>>>>>>>> * 2qwk! 2.03 * The first full-featured QWK reader for the Apple. Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Path: news1.icaen!news.uiowa.edu!news.physics.uiowa.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.erols.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!express.ior.com!cnn.isc-br.com!nwfocus.wa.com!techall!norman.dodge From: norman.dodge@techall.wa.com Subject: GENIE & LAMP 12/12 Message-ID: <9701100003.002UJ00@techall.wa.com> Organization: TechAlliance X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Distribution: world Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 00:03:22 -0700 Lines: 142 >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Version 2.2 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: Begin part 12/12 >>>>>>>>>> would be a monthly publication that would be based out of the II Scribe forum. It -may- have some restictions on distribution that GenieLamp doesn't, but that hasn't been decided yet. _If_ Genie does cease to exist suddenly, and you would like to know the status of GenieLamp A2's successor, you can either get on Delphi and check the II Scribe forum (custom 11) or you can check my web page at http://www.kestrok.com/~rsuenaga. Alternatively, you can email me at rsuenaga@kestrok.com, but I'd prefer you check one of the two mentioned places first. GenieLamp> Will the former editor of GenieLamp, Doug Cuff, play any future """""""""role in GenieLamp? Ryan> Doug's still with GenieLamp; in fact, he submitted an article for """" this issue that I haven't gotten a chance to look at yet. In fact, I don't think I would have taken this job without some assurance he'd still be involved. I think Doug's main reason for leaving is that he's needing to spend more time seeking employment in real life. And I can tell you that doing GenieLamp definitely takes a lot of time! GenieLamp> What role can the monthly readers of GenieLamp play in assuring """"""""" the continued success of GenieLamp? Ryan> Write us. Tell us what you like, what you want, what you don't """" like, what you don't want. Without hearing from you, we'll never know how to make GenieLamp better. Better yet, write for us! I'm always looking for contributors. GenieLamp> Ryan, I think I can say GenieLamp's in good hands. """"""""" Ryan> Thanks. I hope it is myself. """" [EOA] //////////////////////////////////////// Genie_QWIK_QUOTE //// / I just picked up a DeskJet Plus for a hum / / (which is equal to 1/5 of a song) / /////////////////////////////////////////// J.LAWRENCE9 ///// [EOA] [LOG]////////////////////////////// LOG OFF / ///////////////////////////////// GenieLamp Information """"""""""""""""""""" o COMMENTS: Contacting GenieLamp o GenieLamp STAFF: Who Are We? GenieLamp Information GenieLamp A2 is published on the first of every """"""""""""""""""""" month in library 55 of Genie's A2 RoundTable (page 645;3). GenieLamp is also distributed on CrossNet and many public and commercial BBS systems worldwide. o To reach GenieLamp on Internet send mail to genielamp@genie.com or to reach GenieLamp _A2_, send mail to a2lamp@genie.com o Back issues of GenieLamp A2 are available in the A2 RoundTable Library #55 on page 645 (m645;3). o We welcome and respond to all E-mail. To leave comments, suggestions or just to say hi, you can contact me in the A2 RoundTable (Category 3, Topic 3) or send GenieMail to Ryan Suenaga at [A2LAMP] on page 200. >>> GENIELAMP STAFF <<< """"""""""""""""""""""" GenieLamp o John Peters [GENIELAMP] Publisher """"""""" o Mike White [MWHITE] Managing Editor APPLE II o Ryan M. Suenaga [A2LAMP] Editor """""""" o Doug Cuff [D.CUFF] Editor Emeritus A2Pro o Tim Buchheim [A2PRO.GELAMP] Editor """"" ATARI o Sheldon H. Winick [GELAMP.ST] Editor """"" IBM o Sharon Molnar [SHARON.LAMP] Editor """ MACINTOSH o Richard Vega [GELAMP.MAC] Editor """"""""" POWER PC o Ben Soulon [BEN.GELAMP] Editor """""""" \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\//////////////////////////////////// Opinions expressed herein are those of the individual authors, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Genie Online Services, Yovelle Renaissance Corp., GenieLamp Online Magazines, or T/TalkNet Online Publishing. Bulletin board messages are reprinted verbatim and are included in this publication with permission from Genie Online Services and the source RoundTable. Genie Online Services, GenieLamp Online Magazines, and T/TalkNet Publishing do not guarantee the accuracy or suitability of any information included herein. We reserve the right to edit all letters and copy. Material published in this edition may be reprinted under the fol- lowing terms only. Reprint permission granted, unless otherwise noted, to registered computer user groups and not for profit publications. All articles must remain unedited and include the issue number and author at the top of each article reprinted. Please include the fol- lowing at the end of all reprints: \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/////////////////////////////////// The preceding article is reprinted courtesy of GenieLamp Online Magazine. (c) Copyright 1996 T/TalkNET Publishing and Genie Online Services. To join Genie, set your modem to half duplex (local echo). Have your modem dial 1-800-638-8369 in the United States or 1-800-387-8330 in Canada. When you get a CONNECT message, wait for the U#= prompt, type: JOINGENIE and hit the RETURN key. Genie will then prompt you for your signup information. If the signup server is unavailable, call (voice) 1-800-638-9636 for more information. ////////////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ [EOF] >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: End file almp9701 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> CSplit: End part 12/12 crc: 03c2 >>>>>>>>>> * 2qwk! 2.03 * Unregistered Evaluation Copy - 2.03b