4-24-7 from Kevin Lightner (synthfool@synthfool.com) Just thought I'd write to say thanks and also to mention that the "Pig font" you have on your site was originally developed for a BBS called the PigSty, of which I was a member. It was a very private board inhabited by some of the top crackers and pirates of the day (early to mid 1980's) The Pig Sty was headed by Mort Goodman in Orange California. He was a book binder by trade, but a pirate by hobby. He'd not only copy the disks, he'd copy the manuals, bind them, etc. The Pig Sty was limited to something like 30 members. It could take a year or more waiting for an opening and even then, you had to be recommended by an existing member. There were no children on the system, unless they were close to 18 and unbelievably bright. Each member had 30-40 mins or so to log onto a single BBS number, read and post, then leave. I still have some text dumps from the board here somewhere. Once a year, Mort would throw a big party called the PigFest. He'd rent a restaurant, a boat in the harbor or whatever. Cost thousands for him. Dinner, prize drawings and fun. Members on the board included The City Slicker, Long John Silver, The Gonif, The Peeler, The Cracker, Golden Ears, etc. We even had a vice president of Xerox at one point. Seemed appropriate for folks that liked to copy things ;-) The Pig Font was made by one of the members, if I recall. I think as a gift to Mort. I myself copied several of the proms for folks and still have my (very rare) Hollister Micro Systems burner. Anyways, I can ask my friend who was a member. He knows. There were also various knockoffs from the original pig font. Many totally brilliant folks on that list. One guy made a disk drive copying device that took two drives and by using a *single* drive spindle was able to copy any disk. It eliminated all the decoding and frame bits that could be mis-skewed for copy protection purposes. Of course, it produced copy protected copies too. ;-) I was a 6502 programmer and could hold my own, but some of these guys were just amazing. Anyways, the Pig Sty slowly died. Mort's wife passed away and he himself fell off a ladder and was never the same afterwards. Various members went their own ways- Apple, Ashton Tate, Roland, IBM, etc.